Sky distribution around the house over ethernet

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#195576 25-Apr-2016 11:35

I've been looking around to see if a product like this exists and haven't found anything so far. What i'm looking for is essentially a HDHomerun with an HDMI input. So to distribute Sky around the house you would connect your Sky box to this mystery box (bonus points if it has HDMI passthrough so I can keep my sky box connected to the TV in the lounge), and the mystery box would create a stream which you could watch on say any DLNA device or computer attached to your network.

Does anyone know of a product like this? Or alternatively, how do distribute Sky around to multiple screens in your house? My place is wired up with Cat6, so i'm looking for a solution that uses that. Cheers.

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#1541567 25-Apr-2016 11:52

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/how-to/a6751/how-to-extend-your-hdmi-cables/

About half way down the page it explains your exact scenario 👍

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And here's an example to show how it's done (most need 2xethernet cables to carry the signal btw)

https://trademe.co.nz/1074323797

HOWEVER, do your homework before buying, as 'baluns' are not all created equally, and I've never used one myself so have no idea which are best or what to look for!

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#1541598 25-Apr-2016 12:10

I have seen standalone HDMI encoders when lookign at other stuff on aliexpress. No idea how they deal with HDCP - you may need to strip that first, and I dont think they DLNA the output. Were damn pricy too.

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#1541601 25-Apr-2016 12:13

I also recall there as a post on hackaday where someone figured out how to get the mjpeg stream out of one of the hdmi over ethernet extenders like these - http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1080P-HDMI-Extender-TX-RX-120M-with-IR-over-CAT6-RJ45-Ethernet-Cable-Support-HDMI-3D/32643092407.html but having used a pair of them before, the picture was pretty bad. Probably wouldnt notice the additional compression ontop of sky, but it made pages full of text look bad.

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#1541646 25-Apr-2016 13:17

You'd need a HDCP stripper such as HD Fury to strip the HDCP signal (they have a model with HDMI splitter) and then a H.264 encoder. Buying a professionally supported model in NZ will set you back around $1k - however you can pick up devices from all the usual sources of Chinese gear for US$200 - $300

I highly doubt you'll find anything that has DLNA, and likewise you'll probably end up finding that it's only specialist apps such as VLC that can play the H.264 streams.

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#1541647 25-Apr-2016 13:18

PhantomNVD: http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/how-to/a6751/how-to-extend-your-hdmi-cables/

About half way down the page it explains your exact scenario 👍

Edit*

And here's an example to show how it's done (most need 2xethernet cables to carry the signal btw)

https://trademe.co.nz/1074323797

HOWEVER, do your homework before buying, as 'baluns' are not all created equally, and I've never used one myself so have no idea which are best or what to look for!

That's merely a balun / HDMI extender, it doesn't convert it to IP.

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#1541649 25-Apr-2016 13:21

sbiddle:

You'd need a HDCP stripper such as HD Fury to strip the HDCP signal (they have a model with HDMI splitter) and then a H.264 encoder. Buying a professionally supported model in NZ will set you back around $1k - however you can pick up devices from all the usual sources of Chinese gear for US$200 - $300

I highly doubt you'll find anything that has DLNA, and likewise you'll probably end up finding that it's only specialist apps such as VLC that can play the H.264 streams.

HD Fury is way overpriced compared to chinese HDMI splitter. Only need HDMI 1.3 and old HDCP since that is all sky support.

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#1541652 25-Apr-2016 13:35

And is all that really worth it when you'll only be able to watch the same thing everywhere?
You'd be better to just pay for multi room. Or look at setting up a PC with dvbs2 tuners and card reader.

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#1541656 25-Apr-2016 13:42

PhantomNVD:

And here's an example to show how it's done (most need 2xethernet cables to carry the signal btw)

Do not get one that needs 2 ethernet cables though..... it can cause a world of problems. Might not too, but, not worth the risk.

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#1541657 25-Apr-2016 13:52

They are not ethernet cables if they are not carrying ethernet, they are just cat5 or 6 ones.

The one I linked to on aliexpress is ethernet, it can go thru switches and a wifi bridge ok, it just compresses the hell out of the image to get it to fir thru a 100 meg interface.

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#1541662 25-Apr-2016 13:59

I use a slingbox and a fire tv stick, works very well

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#1541847 25-Apr-2016 21:06

Wouldn't the most obvious solution be, to get extra sky boxes? Not the geekiest, but not against skys T&Cs.

It, of course, does mean if you have a my sky that any recording are stuck on the single box.

This is where sky nexts needs to move to keep people interested....or at least make single decoders and more content on their on demand platform for accessing on multiple screens around the house.

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#1542373 26-Apr-2016 18:19

I have two suggestions

1) Media Encoder

You can use a generic media encoder and then play it back on compatible devices. One such device is this

It is just a matter of programming the URL's into the various devices around the house to stream from the box.

Tip: Sky has some sort of hdmi encryption on the output so you may be better off using something that will encode from a component source rather than hdmi.

2) Multi Set Top Box

I have seen in a catalog from a local distributor (cant remember which) a brand of set top boxes where you insert your sky card into the master box. You then run both the coax satellite feed -and- ethernet to slave decoders around the house. The decoders get their signal direct from the dish, but take the sky card info from the master box via the ethernet cable. Its like sky multiroom but using a non-sky set of decoders and only one sky card needed.

I am unable to recall the brand or local distrubutor and the person who showed them to me is not home at the moment so i cant ask.

3) Just get sky multiroom

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#1542395 26-Apr-2016 19:30

raytaylor:

2) Multi Set Top Box

I have seen in a catalog from a local distributor (cant remember which) a brand of set top boxes where you insert your sky card into the master box. You then run both the coax satellite feed -and- ethernet to slave decoders around the house. The decoders get their signal direct from the dish, but take the sky card info from the master box via the ethernet cable. Its like sky multiroom but using a non-sky set of decoders and only one sky card needed.

I am unable to recall the brand or local distrubutor and the person who showed them to me is not home at the moment so i cant ask.

I'd be really surprised if any distributors actively promote card sharing. Yes lots of people do it, but it is illegal. The new cards will also break a lot of existing setups.

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#1544677 30-Apr-2016 22:43

Hi you can buy an HDMI splitter 1 in 4 out and then just run long HDMI cables to each TV. I got on Trademe 1080p splitter $48 and 15m HDMI Cables for $13 each.

Not the CAT6 answer but works fine.

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#1544697 1-May-2016 03:49

theres also wireless A/V and sure there is hdmi .. I know dx.com were selling units

our house we just use RF.. sends it to a RG mixer on chan 33 to wall antenna and any tv can tune in to it.

quality is lost but its good enough for most things if not a purest.

but maybe just as easy to use sky go? watch on tablet or pc or smart tv and dont have to be the same channel

either. but its not got HD video yet. but its OK

http://www.skygo.co.nz/

uses your existing account.. just need to enter your skyID and make a ID/password

and open up the player via a browser.. done.

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update found this device

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-wireless-hdmi-video-transmitter/