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540trickzter

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#196218 23-May-2016 17:01
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We are in the process of building our new home. It's a fairly large Single Storey home 275m2. I've been thinking about the networking setup of our house. But I want to ask you guys what you think as I'm no expert. I've been trying to do a bit of research and reading other posts on here trying to decide what equipment to get etc...

So far It's going to go like this:-

*Star topology to the garage like all new houses are these days.

*Was thinking about getting the Dynamix R10WM9 9RU 10" Mini Cabinet.

*Dynamix 12 Port Cat6 Patch Panel for 10" cabinet

*Ubiquiti 5 port EdgeRouter PoE

*16 Port Gigabit Switch (Not sure which one yet)

*Ubiquiti UniFi UAP-AC-Pro Access Point ceiling mounted to central part of the house

*Cat6 runs to 11 spots in the house.


What are you thoughts on the equipment chosen?

What Gigabit Switch can you guys recommend that's not too expensive and fits into this cabinet? I was looking at the Linksys 16 Port Unmanaged LGS116-AU Switch. But I don't think it's going to fit in there as both the mini cabinet and Linksys Switch are 280mm wide.

Also regarding the Cat6 Cable. I see that Cat6 Cable isn't all the same, some Cat6 are 24AWG and some are 23AWG and also some are 250MHz and some 550MHz. Does it matter which you get? Is it better to get the thicker 23AWG gauge and 550MHz?

TIA


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afe66
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  #1558079 23-May-2016 17:10
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Why so few runs of cable ?

 

I've got 6 runs alone going to behind my tv.

 

There are guidelines online Google home network guidelines .nz 

 

Telecommunications forum guidelines.


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  #1558101 23-May-2016 17:29
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I'm with afe66, that's a very small number of cable runs.

 

I'd double your runs/ports to a 24 port panel.. Will cost you a wee bit more in panels/cables, but most of the cost is in the labour so it shouldn't hurt too much.

 

With cable, unless you are planning on running 10GBASE-T sometime in the future, you don't really even need CAT6, 5E is plenty sufficient. Cat6 is the 250MHZ, which is only rated for shorter runs of 10GBASE-T, Cat6A is the 500MHZ which is rated for 100M runs of 10GBASE-T.

 

 

 

 





 
 
 
 


540trickzter

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  #1558114 23-May-2016 17:40
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Oh ok. This is what I was thinking for the runs:-

 

1 x Study

 

1 x Living Room behind wall mounted TV

 

1 x Central Ceiling placement for AP

 

4 x Lounge for entertainment unit

 

1 x Bedroom 1 (Master)

 

1 x Bedroom 2

 

1 x Bedroom 3

 

1 x Bedroom 4

 

 

 

This Dynamix Cat6 cable is 550MHz:

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=CABDNX2916&name=Dynamix-305M-Cat6-Blue-UTP-SOLID-Cable-Roll.-550MH


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  #1558129 23-May-2016 18:01
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Put at least a double at every wall outlet.

 

Are any of these for Phones?

 

Are any of these for HDMI extension? - then put in two at either end for these.

 

Are any of these for IR remote repeating? another one at either end

 

etc

 

 


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  #1558135 23-May-2016 18:22

InstallerUFB:

 

Put at least a double at every wall outlet.

 

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Agreed!

 

It is crazy to only run one when you can have at least two for slightly more effort.

 

But, it doesn't mean you have to have a switch capable of supporting all of them at the same time.

 

The extra Ethernet jacks give you more flexibility if you need to move stuff around.

 

Also, I would plan on putting all your TV over Ethernet too.


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  #1558138 23-May-2016 18:23
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Yea if you are running one cable, run two.
This way you have a network feed and then a 'miscellaneous' feed for things like IR.

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  #1558151 23-May-2016 18:50
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Consider looking at the deal on the Cambium wifi devices. few more days left on the deal (if there are any still left) http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=164&topicid=195241. You can get three devices for about the price of 1 of the AC-Pros (i think). if you go this route the Ubiquiti 5 port EdgeRouter PoE won't work as it doesn't use the right POE standard (i.e. ubiquiti made their own version of POE up)

 

I just purchased a 24 port switch, the price difference vs an unmanged 16 port (the one you are looking at) was better per port plus it has all POE ports, not just 8 like on the one you are looking at refer above about eh 5 port not working..

 

Run more cable as others have said. cable is super cheap. Id say the cost for someone to pull two cables vs one cable is 2% more expensive (they just pull 2 or 3 or 4 at the same time instead of one)

 

You'll also need to bump up the patch panel requirements due to more runs...





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  #1558202 23-May-2016 20:14
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2 also gives you a spare if one cable gets damaged


540trickzter

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  #1558238 23-May-2016 21:18
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Hi all,

 

Thanks for the replies. OK I will double up and go with a 24 port patch panel and look at doing some extra runs in other locations. I guess I'll have to go to a bigger cabinet, which cabinet do you guys recommend?


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  #1559738 25-May-2016 22:51
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I just finished smart wiring my place in Wellington. Ran 2 cat6 to every bedroom and 4 to the living room. Totally do this at least. Think about places like kitchen, anywhere you might want a security camera etc. I also used a uniquiti AP and they are the BOMB. Also think about wall mounted TV and running cat6 there etc. I got a Hubbell cabinet from Stewart's and it's working well.

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  #1559747 25-May-2016 23:44
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If you don't end up putting enough in, you have always got the option of wifi anyway. I think having  enough power points in the house is more important in a way. If you uy a spec house, it usually has the bare minimum of power points. You can even run a network over power cables with adapters.


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