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Topic # 201840 6-Sep-2016 11:30
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I've just bought a cleverloop IP camera kit (2 external cameras), was hoping to run them on wifi but its too unreliable. Instead of fixing that..  I'm going to cable them as I'd need to get power to them anyhow.

 

I've already found & bought 2 poe injector/splitter adaptors for each end of each cable run, I have the 12v power adaptors that came with the cameras to drive them.

 

I need a new network switch as my fritz box is maxed out already anyhow.

 

Both cameras will be on the second story of a house , one ~10m away, one 15-20m (not measured exactly) so ~ 50m of cable should be plenty. I'll be going through the wooden wall of my upstairs office with the cables.

 

I've done this stuff before but not for a long time and dont have crimp tools for the ends etc. I'll also install a waterproof junction box at each camera to enclose/weatherproof) the mess of cables

 

But I'm trying to find some external/outdoor ethernet cable and can only find 300m+ reels of the damned stuff for $$ ?

 

Found a few 20-25m external patch cables I could butcher but..

 

 

 

if it helps this is in chc


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  Reply # 1624479 6-Sep-2016 11:51
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GoWifi have a decent range of pre-cut outdoor ethernet cables: https://www.gowifi.co.nz/cabling/cabling-ethernet.html




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  Reply # 1624484 6-Sep-2016 11:59
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xcubed:

 

GoWifi have a decent range of pre-cut outdoor ethernet cables: https://www.gowifi.co.nz/cabling/cabling-ethernet.html

 

 

Thats cool I can order the right length thanks!

 

 

 

They did want to sell me a $600 16 port switch to run 4 devices lolz..

 

$175 for the crimp tool :O I guess I wont need anything fancu for the ends they will either be inside or in a weatherproof box


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  Reply # 1624485 6-Sep-2016 11:59
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What part of the country are you in? I have an overstock of outdoor cable at the moment from a cancelled order - about 200 Meters worth

 

Also - if the camera takes PoE - why not use an injector (Rather than a Splitter Set) and get rid of the outdoor box to hold it - that's how I did it.





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  Reply # 1624487 6-Sep-2016 12:03
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cisconz:

 

What part of the country are you in? I have an overstock of outdoor cable at the moment from a cancelled order - about 200 Meters worth

 

Also - if the camera takes PoE - why not use an injector (Rather than a Splitter Set) and get rid of the outdoor box to hold it - that's how I did it.

 

 

 

 

I'm in Christchurch.

 

 

 

According to this I need a poe splitter at the camera end so I guess it cant take the power via the rj45. Thats ok I'd need the housing for it anyhow.

 

http://support.cleverloop.com/en/support/solutions/articles/6000080965-powering-an-outdoor-camera-using-power-over-ethernet-poe-


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  Reply # 1624488 6-Sep-2016 12:05
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I'm in Christchurch.

 

 

 

According to this I need a poe splitter at the camera end so I guess it cant take the power via the rj45. Thats ok I'd need the housing for it anyhow.

 

http://support.cleverloop.com/en/support/solutions/articles/6000080965-powering-an-outdoor-camera-using-power-over-ethernet-poe-

 

 

I'm in AKL so Go Wifi is your best bet.

 

Lame - that looks like rubbish - hopefully you can make it look nice.





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  Reply # 1624492 6-Sep-2016 12:08
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Didnt really consider it when i ordered.. system works well but why not a nice tidy connector..




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  Reply # 1624516 6-Sep-2016 12:14
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 ah pbtech have a much cheaper crimp tool..

 

 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETDIG9103/Digitus-RJ45RJ11-Crimping-Tool


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  Reply # 1624519 6-Sep-2016 12:17
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cisconz:

 

What part of the country are you in? I have an overstock of outdoor cable at the moment from a cancelled order - about 200 Meters worth

 

Also - if the camera takes PoE - why not use an injector (Rather than a Splitter Set) and get rid of the outdoor box to hold it - that's how I did it.

 

 

The cameras aren't actually POE. They require 12V on the DC connector.

 

 




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  Reply # 1624590 6-Sep-2016 13:39
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sbiddle:

 

cisconz:

 

What part of the country are you in? I have an overstock of outdoor cable at the moment from a cancelled order - about 200 Meters worth

 

Also - if the camera takes PoE - why not use an injector (Rather than a Splitter Set) and get rid of the outdoor box to hold it - that's how I did it.

 

 

The cameras aren't actually POE. They require 12V on the DC connector.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah not actually poe nope, I looked at so many systems I probably got confused and thought they were.. s'ok I can deal with that bit.




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  Reply # 1624594 6-Sep-2016 13:50
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ok just need to work out how much cable I really need now and get that and the switch, ordered a rj45 crimp tool and 50 ends lol should cope


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  Reply # 1624600 6-Sep-2016 14:05
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I tried passive POE and the voltage drop made a huge reduction in the output from the IR LEDs compared to 12v direct into it.

 

Are they actually those cameras? Ive bought some POE boards to go in the first lot of IP cameras I bought which were some cheap generic escam ones, waiting on some 2mm standoffs to arrive so I can put them in. They make them standard POE so can be powered off a switch, and 48v so minimial voltage drop and it doesnt matter since it is regulated anyway. Only thing is using the cable that comes on the camera it will only support endspan POE since the other pair is not connected, not all real POE injectors do endspan.





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  Reply # 1624601 6-Sep-2016 14:06
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yep those cameras.

 

 

 

hopefully work ok with the distances at 12v if not I'll have to do something else i guess


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