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#217913 18-Jul-2017 14:21

The NBR reports Google is launching its Google WiFi product in New Zealand this week.

A smartphone app for controlling Google WiFi lets you put broadband on pause for kids’ devices, or create recurring pauses for dinner or homework with scheduled pause. It also shows you which devices are connected and how much bandwidth they’re using. You can also prioritise devices within your network so you can stream that latest TV episode without interruptions, Google says.

Google Wifi will be sold as a 1-pack for $229 (for an apartment or small home) and a 3-pack for $599 from Noel Leeming, Harvey Norman and JB Hi-Fi. The idea is you buy enough units as you need to cover your house. It's horses for courses, but a Google animation has two units covering an average ground floor.

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#1824420 18-Jul-2017 14:28

I saw these on the JB HiFi web site over the weekend.

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#1824423 18-Jul-2017 14:35

Hopefully they add VLAN tagging support then it will be a nice option for people wanting to reduce their number of networking devices required

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#1824445 18-Jul-2017 15:03

jnimmo:

Hopefully they add VLAN tagging support then it will be a nice option for people wanting to reduce their number of networking devices required

if vlan tagging is missing, that is lacking a crucial detail for it to become a full routing platform.

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#1824457 18-Jul-2017 15:11

More information here in the official Google blog.

Available in New Zealand starting Thursday, July 20 as a 1-pack for $229 and a 3-pack for $599 from Noel Leeming, Harvey Norman and JB Hi-Fi.

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#1825556 19-Jul-2017 22:21

No VLAN tagging is quite a deal breaker for NZ

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#1825562 19-Jul-2017 22:34

There is a live support chat on the Google Wifi site, I asked about VLAN tagging and the answer was no at this stage, and he confirmed that there are two options

AP only mode (Which means MESH capability cannot be used)
Double NAT (using your existing router)

But he understood my concerns and passed them on

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#1836634 3-Aug-2017 15:21

So hold up, does this thing not just plug into your existing router and run the wireless portion? I understand one is wired, and the others can be either wired or use their own mesh network.

Is this not the case?

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#1836697 3-Aug-2017 16:30

davidcole:

So hold up, does this thing not just plug into your existing router and run the wireless portion? I understand one is wired, and the others can be either wired or use their own mesh network.

Is this not the case?

It's more than most UFB connections supply a tagged vlan to the next downstream device. The device needs to know to strip it out - it's trivial but hasnt been widely deployed across the globe. Some providers dont force tagged support on the connection, but many do incl spark and voda, which is most of the market.

Apple's kit for example doesnt support tagged vlans, which is most annoying.

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#1836841 3-Aug-2017 20:45

antoniosk:

davidcole:

So hold up, does this thing not just plug into your existing router and run the wireless portion? I understand one is wired, and the others can be either wired or use their own mesh network.

Is this not the case?

It's more than most UFB connections supply a tagged vlan to the next downstream device. The device needs to know to strip it out - it's trivial but hasnt been widely deployed across the globe. Some providers dont force tagged support on the connection, but many do incl spark and voda, which is most of the market.

Apple's kit for example doesnt support tagged vlans, which is most annoying.

So to get it working here, with someone like spark, it needs to double nat?

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#1836881 3-Aug-2017 22:18

Nah, just sit a switch in front that will remove the tag.

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#1836912 4-Aug-2017 01:12

freitasm: The NBR reports Google is launching its Google WiFi product in New Zealand this week.

This is the simplified version of michaelmurfy's Ubiquiti Edgerouter Tutorial.

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#1840868 8-Aug-2017 07:17

I would be curious to see how well this works. To be honest more AP's generally tend to solve the problem this product is trying to solve. But I will wait for reviews/feedback.

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#1848357 18-Aug-2017 09:39

Has anyone used these units? - I'm looking to upgrade my 9-year-old Apple Express/Extreme units and it looks like a good option. I note that people are concerned that they don't support VLAN. What are the implications of that?

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#1848364 18-Aug-2017 09:43

If you're on UFB and your ISP uses VLAN tagging then you'll need to use some other device to remove the tagging. Without this, it won't work.

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#1848366 18-Aug-2017 09:46

Behodar:

If you're on UFB and your ISP uses VLAN tagging then you'll need to use some other device to remove the tagging. Without this, it won't work.

Thanks - I'm with Spark - would this cause an issue?

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