Spark fibre conflict with ethernet switch.

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sam395

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#225394 16-Nov-2017 12:20

Just installed fiber with spark,Huawei HG659B and Netgear Prosafe Gigabit Ethernet switch,wireless is fine but when I try to set tv to wired internet the switch uses its own mac address which is different than sparks,won't auto recognise the settings.

Please help?

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#1902687 16-Nov-2017 12:22

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All network devices have their own MAC address. The switch doesn't need to have the same MAC as the router, as it's not exposed to the internet. Can you expand on what the problem is, and what you see? Does the TV get an IP address?

sam395

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#1902690 16-Nov-2017 12:30

It won't auto detect the settings,you can change the settings manually but can't change the mac address.I don't really know what settings to put in ,the wifi dns etc didn't work.

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#1902697 16-Nov-2017 12:51

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What is your actual problem?

Your explanation makes no sence, and is certainly nothing related to MAC addresses nor a switch "conflict".

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#1902701 16-Nov-2017 12:58

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sam395:

It won't auto detect the settings,you can change the settings manually but can't change the mac address.I don't really know what settings to put in ,the wifi dns etc didn't work.

More likely talking about IP addresses.

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sam395

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#1902702 16-Nov-2017 12:59

I guess it assigns its own address ,wifi is fine,its the settings that I am having trouble with to connect, it asks me enable DHCP but it already is enabled.

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#1902703 16-Nov-2017 13:02

Run ping from a PC and find an unused address, use the routers IP address for gateway and DNS, i.e., 192.168.1.254.

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#1902704 16-Nov-2017 13:02

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Sounds like the switch is in front of the HG659 between the ONT. The order should go ONT with cable to WAN port on HG659, cable from LAN 1 or 2,3,4 to the switch.

sam395

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#1902713 16-Nov-2017 13:23

I think you are right,the electrician has wired the house for Ethernet,ont comes in then through the switch to the router in another room,sounds nonsenseacle,he hasn't left enough room for the router in the network box ,we will have to make room.

It should be Ont-Router-Switch to Ethernet cables which is why I am having trouble configuring the tv as its not running through the router first?

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#1902714 16-Nov-2017 13:31

Then your wifi will be broken as in metal box.

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#1902716 16-Nov-2017 13:35

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If you want your router in another room and not the cabinet you'll have two use 2 RJ45 outlets to feed the LAN output from the router back to the switch so it goes ONT -> Router -> Switch -> TV

wellygary

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#1902717 16-Nov-2017 13:36

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sam395:

I think you are right,the electrician has wired the house for Ethernet,ont comes in then through the switch to the router in another room,sounds nonsenseacle,he hasn't left enough room for the router in the network box ,we will have to make room.

It should be Ont-Router-Switch to Ethernet cables which is why I am having trouble configuring the tv as its not running through the router first?

Jesus wept.......

From memory the ONT only passes on its single outward facing IP address, , so more than one device will cause all sorts of grief,

RunningMan

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#1902719 16-Nov-2017 13:37

The TV has it's own MAC address. It doesn't change.

To get an internet connection, you need a router - everything you want to connect to the internet needs to go through that router. If you have enough ethernet ports where your router is, no reason why you can't run a line back to the switch as well.

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#1902720 16-Nov-2017 13:38

Mattmannz:

Sounds like the switch is in front of the HG659 between the ONT. The order should go ONT with cable to WAN port on HG659, cable from LAN 1 or 2,3,4 to the switch.

as above.

Alternatively, it sounds like you are connecting both Wifi and Ethernet. Which will cause all sorts of confusion - we have an LG tv that for some dumb reason bridges the two!

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#1902722 16-Nov-2017 13:40

sam395:

I think you are right,the electrician has wired the house for Ethernet,ont comes in then through the switch to the router in another room,sounds nonsenseacle,he hasn't left enough room for the router in the network box ,we will have to make room.

It should be Ont-Router-Switch to Ethernet cables which is why I am having trouble configuring the tv as its not running through the router first?

I assume where the switch is located is where all your cables from the various rooms come back to?

If so put a jumper cable in place to take the switch out of the link from the ONT to the router - hopefully you have a second outlet in the room where the router is, you will need to run a cable from a LAN port on the router back through this second outlet back to the switch. Then you can connect your other devices directly to the switch.

sam395

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#1902738 16-Nov-2017 14:27

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You were dead right,very perceptive of you,put the router before the switch everything fixed ,it was never going to work ,you would think an electrician would have the knowledge to do it right,getting it to fit could be a drama but no worries.

Thank you for your time and knowledge,I must say I feel a bit dumb!Helps to get another perspective on things.

Cheers!

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