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Topic # 230597 4-Mar-2018 00:25
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My colleague has had trouble getting a price for a managed switch and I would appreciate it if someone can find an indicative price.

 

I'm sorry I don't yet know which model is suitable for our needs but it would be one of the lower end units.

 

Needs:

 

6-8 port - exact number not too important at this stage

 

Giga bit or fibre ports not required although I realise they might come anyway (100MB/s is ample)

 

The ability to do traffic management (i.e. blocking) down to level of the port and IP number in both directions is a must

 

 

 

Unit will be used remotely on a private industrial network.


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  Reply # 1967766 4-Mar-2018 09:45
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Cisco enterprise switches are only sold to Cisco certified partners and this is why they will be having difficulty obtaining one.  It will be sold with a support contract to cover firmware updates and hardware replacement.  The cost of the support contract depends on the level of support required - 4 hour swap out, next business day, etc and the location of the switch. 




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  Reply # 1967774 4-Mar-2018 10:00
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Ultimately those switched are no good unless someone sells it to a customer, surely ?!

 

Thanks for your reply - we would probably hold one spare so we can leave to swap it asap. I understand this series is centrally managed by a subscription based service.

 

I'm just after an indicative price - do you have a range?


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  Reply # 1967865 4-Mar-2018 12:29
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The issue is that there are far too many "engineers" in New Zealand who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.  They talk fast but can't do.  The vendor then has to fix the failed deployment and a number of the major vendors are, to be really frank, just sick of dealing with these people.  For this reason access to enterprise equipment is "restricted" to companies that have qualified engineers.  I, for example, have to resit exams every twelve or twenty four months, depending on the vendor and the product range to maintain access to these products.  This represents a major investment in time for me and time/cost for my company.

 

A couple of questions:

 

     

  1. Where are you located?
  2. Do you have a model or models in mind?



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  Reply # 1967985 4-Mar-2018 19:40
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Crowdie:

 

The issue is that there are far too many "engineers" in New Zealand who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. 

 

A couple of questions:

 

     

  1. Where are you located?
  2. Do you have a model or models in mind?

 

 

My colleague who asked is cisco certified - i think he encountered crappy NZ service = a reseller who didn't want to 'do him a favour' the day he asked.

 

If cisco want to be careful who they sell to, that's up to them but there's plenty of competition.

 

I'm just gathering first level information  right now - at a glance something like MS120-8 FP might do the trick.

 

Wellington BTW.

 

Cheers.


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  Reply # 1967995 4-Mar-2018 20:29
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Can you confirm that model number?  The quoted switch is a Meraki switch rather than a Cisco one.  Is this what he/she is after?

 

 elpenguino:

 

If cisco want to be careful who they sell to, that's up to them but there's plenty of competition.

 

 

None of the major enterprise switch vendors; Cisco, HP, Extreme, etc.; will sell to unqualified people.

 

If your friend has a CCNP or CCIE I am surprised that Cisco wouldn't sell him/her a switch.




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  Reply # 1968010 4-Mar-2018 21:12
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Not friend, colleague at SME - network engineer.

 

And it wasn't "wouldn't sell" it was "wouldn't provide price" hence the post.

 

Might be time to get my IT boss to phone someone else's boss and tell them what happened.


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  Reply # 1968016 4-Mar-2018 21:15
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Have a look at this:

 

Cisco SG 200-08 8-port Gigabit Smart Switch
(8x Total Networking Ports), 8x Gigabit Ethernet, Managed

 

$164.35 incl. GST at Ascent

 

Out of stock (new stock due 23 Mar)





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  Reply # 1968017 4-Mar-2018 21:16
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Yes, the Meraki model is deliberate, at the suggestion of my colleague who saw it advertised. We need something non-19 inch and smaller the better.

 

TBH because it's mains powered it's going to be no good anyway, I was just trying to include it for completeness.

 

Thanks anyway guys.


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  Reply # 1968027 4-Mar-2018 21:29
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Sideface:

 

Have a look at this:

 

Cisco SG 200-08 8-port Gigabit Smart Switch
(8x Total Networking Ports), 8x Gigabit Ethernet, Managed

 

$164.35 incl. GST at Ascent

 

Out of stock (new stock due 23 Mar)

 

 

That doesn't supporting the functionality the OP requires. It's a very basic switch that simply has basic switch settings it doesn't support access rules.

 

It's been a long time since I've played with Meraki kit so I can't comment if it even supports that functionality or whether you'll need a proper IOS switch to support the access rules the OP actually wants to do.




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  Reply # 1968033 4-Mar-2018 21:44
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Sideface:

 

Have a look at this:

 

Cisco SG 200-08 8-port Gigabit Smart Switch
(8x Total Networking Ports), 8x Gigabit Ethernet, Managed

 

$164.35 incl. GST at Ascent

 

Out of stock (new stock due 23 Mar)

 

 

Thanks but we need something more sophisticated with "Extended ACLs" and what not.

 

I had a quick squiz and this one doesn't seem to have those.


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  Reply # 1968063 5-Mar-2018 01:00
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Heya,

 

I'm a Cisco Meraki Partner and can sell you any of the Meraki kit which will do most of what you need, What have you got for Firewall? 


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  Reply # 1968065 5-Mar-2018 02:20
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You're going to need a layer 3 switch to do what you want to do. Pretty sure that Meraki you're looking at is just a Layer 2 switch. 




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  Reply # 1968115 5-Mar-2018 09:05
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zCelicaDude:

 

Heya,

 

I'm a Cisco Meraki Partner and can sell you any of the Meraki kit which will do most of what you need, What have you got for Firewall? 

 

 

Aweseome, paydirt !!

 

I don't understand your question.

 

We want a unit to use as a firewall/switch - other requirements are in my 1st post.

 

lxsw20:

 

You're going to need a layer 3 switch to do what you want to do. Pretty sure that Meraki you're looking at is just a Layer 2 switch. 

 

 

Right , so that's no good.

 

The cisco site doesn't have a parameter search function so I am open to suggestions - remember non-19" units are required.


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  Reply # 1968116 5-Mar-2018 09:09
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elpenguino:

 

We want a unit to use as a firewall/switch - other requirements are in my 1st post.

 

 

You'll be hard pressed to find a decent enterprise device that functions as both firewall and switch.  That's consumer grade stuff.  You really should use a separate firewall and switch in a business environment.




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  Reply # 1968130 5-Mar-2018 09:36
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gehenna:

 

elpenguino:

 

We want a unit to use as a firewall/switch - other requirements are in my 1st post.

 

 

You'll be hard pressed to find a decent enterprise device that functions as both firewall and switch.  That's consumer grade stuff.  You really should use a separate firewall and switch in a business environment.

 

 

Ok. BTW I don't really want enterprise gear, I want industrial.

 

Dumb switches are cheap so it's more important this device be able to implement ACLs and firewall a network segment for us


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