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#237926 25-Jun-2018 08:36
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Hi there,

 

We would like to setup a wifi system that covers a 1.5km x 1.5km farm. It would need to run on solar. Where would we start? What businesses would install this/setup? 

 

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  #2043375 25-Jun-2018 08:48
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What's the use case?

Trying to just extend the network over that distance? Or be able to actually use client devices within that area?

If it's the latter, you would need a number of cells to get it working well. You can bung up sone high gain antenna, but devices like smart phones only have small antenna so start having trouble transmitting back to the cell.

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  #2043377 25-Jun-2018 08:51
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Give the guys at gowifi.co.nz a call, 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2043378 25-Jun-2018 08:54
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I'm also thinking what exactly is the use case? Wouldn't you normally just use mobile data. Point to Point with high gain antennas, then if you had certain areas you needed wifi then put in an omni antenna.

 

Worth talking with the WISPs in your area and seeing if they can do something for you.

 

WiFi can go up to 200 Meters with a high gain omni depending on your client device. But I wouldn't expect it to be a stable connection, and it doesn't play well over large bodies of water or through trees.





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  #2043380 25-Jun-2018 09:14
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There are a few uses. We dont have very good cell reception and only in a few areas. It is a farm with large areas of regen natives. We would like to install security cameras at a few spots and have internet access so people who are on walks around the property can run an interactive phone app. We would also like to setup some webcams watching kiwi etc


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  #2043398 25-Jun-2018 09:24
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How much is it to setup a cell tower? Last time we checked it was around 500,000


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  #2043402 25-Jun-2018 09:31
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keriboi:

 

How much is it to setup a cell tower? Last time we checked it was around 500,000

 

 

Easy if not more

 

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  #2043423 25-Jun-2018 09:49
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Linux:

 

keriboi:

 

How much is it to setup a cell tower? Last time we checked it was around 500,000

 

 

Easy if not more

 

John

 

 

Yup, especially if you are rural and quite a distance from fibre. I have heard of 1M+ for just a single site primarily in new power and fibre being trenched.

 

 

 

If you just need wifi for CCTV etc, then point to point APs to deliver from there.

 

Otherwise you shouldn't discount trenching in your own ducted fibre as it means you can also put in power at the same time so then setting up a solar panel isn't required.

 

As has already been said, talk to the pro's and ask them if they are local.





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  #2043427 25-Jun-2018 09:54
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Thanks guys. Sounds like an expensive nightmare :)


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  #2043459 25-Jun-2018 11:04
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@linux what about small cells? or a Rural Sure Signal?

 

@keriboi what part of the country are you? What broadband connection to you have into the property?

 

 





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  #2043514 25-Jun-2018 13:02
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If it's for cameras and some basic access you could just do a point-to-multipoint set up. So a nice big 120* antenna at the "front" and then use smaller radios (like a Ubiquiti Nanobeam) down the line at each point where there would be a camera. And then to keep it tidy, something like the little "Air Gateways" (if they still exist) would give client access.

 

By the time you have done solar and someone has installed it, probably easily spending $10-20k - solar being the expensive part of it.


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  #2043564 25-Jun-2018 14:23
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I wouldn't completely discount Fibre as an option. You can pick up prefabed armored fibre off AliExpress for around $1/m depending on the length you want. So if you are ok with trenching or know a neighbour that has the tools then that is do-able along with power. Ideally put it in a duct but it doesn't have to be if you go for armored power. You will probably want to run AC as DC doesn't travel as far especially if you wanted to use PoE.

 

So quite possibly a 40/50mm( or larger ??) duct for fibre & power could work out cheaper than point to point APs and the solar array required.

 

 





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  #2043567 25-Jun-2018 14:24
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BarTender:

 

 You will probably want to run AC as DC doesn't travel as far especially if you wanted to use PoE..

 

 

Now if only Ali had a good source of low power AC kits :)





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  #2043643 25-Jun-2018 16:11
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You do realise trees instantly kill WiFi?

 

Covering 1.5km x 1.5km is a massive area and without any idea of what you're really trying to do you're potentially looking at somewhere around $50k upwards basing that on say 10 sites, but the reality being you're probably  looking at 20 sites minimum to deliver WiFi to mobile devices.


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  #2043745 25-Jun-2018 19:12
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That is a massive area. You need to ask if this interactive app really needs constant connectivity, or if stored data and GPS is enough.




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  #2044080 26-Jun-2018 13:22
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Lots to think about. Will talk to the people and find out what the actually want and budget.


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