Home network set up and bridging routers

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Topic # 239914 10-Aug-2018 13:07

I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to networking and would be very grateful for some advice, please.

I've just moved into a new house which has UFB from 2degrees. They have supplied a very nice Fritzbox 7560 with it. The ONT is in the garage with ethernet cable running from there to four of the rooms. It looks as if the previous owners had their router in there. However, we would rather have the router in the lounge, which is a more central location for the wifi and for the landline connection into it. Also, we would like to block/static route the Google DNS IPs to continue to parallel import certain stuff.

My thought would be to get a non-wifi router that handles static routes etc to put in the garage to handle the distribution around the house and the plug the Fritzbox into one of its ports that runs into the lounge. There are some questions around that:

Would that actually work?
Can I still run the landline off the Fritzbox if it has been bridged?
What would be the best non-wifi router to get that is generally available (from PB Tech for example, if that's not heresy to suggest)?
If I can't run the landline a bridged Fritzbox, what wifi router would be recommended?
How do I bridge routers?

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Reply # 2071272 10-Aug-2018 13:14

How many cable runs do you have to lounge??

Simplest way with a single cable run is to use a splitter at either end and run both WAN and LAN, then install a $20 switch next to ONT into which you plug the LAN. Limited to 100 Mbps on both circuits though.

https://cdlnz.com/C-RJ45LT2

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Reply # 2071292 10-Aug-2018 13:46

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The Fritz is very capable, so it would be wise to use it. Perhaps put the Fritz in the ONT then run the cables from the Fritz and have just an AP at the end of one of them? (seeing you are planning on buying something)?

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Reply # 2071304 10-Aug-2018 13:51

Get a Ubiquity edge router Lite for the garage. Plenty of people on this forum use them. They support features such as DNS redirection. Useful for parallel importing some content.

Set the Fritzbox to "IP Client" mode.

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Reply # 2071357 10-Aug-2018 14:26

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A better option actually would be the Edgerouter X - It is tiny, and supports switching on its ports.

ONT into eth0, the other ports for the ports in the house + Fritzbox.

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Reply # 2071370 10-Aug-2018 14:41

Thanks for the advice so far.

@Spyware we have 4 cables already laid at the moment. The trick is that the router needs to clock the Google DNS addresses to allow for the parallel importing.

@freitasm that was my understanding too. However, if it's in the garage, how would we handle the landline? We do have a Panasonic 3-handset DECT system, so we could use the Fritz's DECT functionality rather than the Panasonic base unit.

@Aredwood @michaelmurfy with the Ubiquitys, would the phone port on the Fritz still work if it is bridged?

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Reply # 2071371 10-Aug-2018 14:44

Yes - you need to put the Fritzbox into client mode.

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Reply # 2071373 10-Aug-2018 14:46

If you put the FritzBox as AP only (as suggested) in the lounge then I don't know how the VoIP will work - not sure if it can be used in IP mode only, better get someone else who knows it.

I know it works as an AP only (as mentioned by Michael because that's how I use it myself, my main router is a Synology box) but I don't use a landline so can't confirm it will be functional.

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Reply # 2071414 10-Aug-2018 15:57

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freitasm:

If you put the FritzBox as AP only (as suggested) in the lounge then I don't know how the VoIP will work - not sure if it can be used in IP mode only, better get someone else who knows it.

I know it works as an AP only (as mentioned by Michael because that's how I use it myself, my main router is a Synology box) but I don't use a landline so can't confirm it will be functional.

The VoIP on the Fritz does work in IP Client Mode. I did exactly this when I put in an EdgeRouter Lite while I was still on 2Degrees. Mine was an older model Fritz, but I can't imagine it should be any different with the new one.

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Reply # 2071440 10-Aug-2018 16:40

Paul1977:

The VoIP on the Fritz does work in IP Client Mode. I did exactly this when I put in an EdgeRouter Lite while I was still on 2Degrees. Mine was an older model Fritz, but I can't imagine it should be any different with the new one.

Can vouch for that, all I use my FB7390 for is VOIP behind a ERL3

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Reply # 2071467 10-Aug-2018 17:42

Excellent stuff. Many thanks everyone for your help. I’ll head off to get the router tomorrow.

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Reply # 2071470 10-Aug-2018 17:50

michaelmurfy:
A better option actually would be the Edgerouter X - It is tiny, and supports switching on its ports.

ONT into eth0, the other ports for the ports in the house + Fritzbox.

Is this the one, Michael?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/category/networking/wireless?fs=6380059

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Reply # 2071472 10-Aug-2018 17:57

sbowness:
michaelmurfy:
A better option actually would be the Edgerouter X - It is tiny, and supports switching on its ports.

ONT into eth0, the other ports for the ports in the house + Fritzbox.

Is this the one, Michael?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/category/networking/wireless?fs=6380059

Or is it this one?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1209/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-ER-X-Advanced-Gigabit-Router-5

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Reply # 2071473 10-Aug-2018 17:57

sbowness:
michaelmurfy:
A better option actually would be the Edgerouter X - It is tiny, and supports switching on its ports.

ONT into eth0, the other ports for the ports in the house + Fritzbox.

Is this the one, Michael?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/category/networking/wireless?fs=6380059

Or is it this one?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETUBI1209/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-ER-X-Advanced-Gigabit-Router-5

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Reply # 2071486 10-Aug-2018 18:55

You linked to the same router but yes it is that one.

I've got a tutorial in my signature. It is not a simple router so ensure you follow the guide to set it up.

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Reply # 2071487 10-Aug-2018 19:00

Oops, the second post posted twice for some reason.

Thanks.