Using existing telephone cable / jacks for ethernet?

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rayonline

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Topic # 240146 22-Aug-2018 21:22

Houses in NZ from 2000 is that with a 6 wire RJ-11 telephone cable? Or is it just 2 wire?

I know someone who asked if they can used for ethernet by adding a extra access point to improve Wi-Fi coverage. They are currently not used, they are telephone wires, ethernet needs point to point. So it's possible for an electrician to use one at the lounge and use the other at one of the bedroom without pulling apart walls and redoing the cables?

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Reply # 2077709 22-Aug-2018 21:42

Nobody here is going to answer that - you'd need to provide a proto of the cable.

Regular "phone" homelan cable was still the norm then, so it's probably what would be expected. Technically this is rated at 10Mbps as it's cat3, and you should be able to run 100Mbps over it but do need to remember it's probably wired in series.

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Reply # 2077728 22-Aug-2018 22:50

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It's amazing what you can get to do a 100Mbps link.

I've even got it running on short runs of garbage old six-way. Certainly wouldn't pass any crosstalk tests. But good enough for just low use links to things like IP phones.

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Reply # 2077730 22-Aug-2018 23:10

So I take it you have considered a powerline solution?

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Reply # 2077789 23-Aug-2018 09:55

If you can't hook up directly to the phone lines, they make adapters to put Ethernet over phone lines (xDSL Style). We used them a my old work. They're not cheap though.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETSTT690087/StarTech-VDSL2-Ethernet-Extender-Kit-Over-UTP?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw-jjhtOB3QIViAYqCh3iJA5aEAAYAiAAEgL7l_D_BwE

Or on Aliexpress:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/ethernet-extends-the-100M-Ethernet-signal-toas-far-as-1500-meters-through-a-Cat-5-5e/1338048_32646398109.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.1.4c463929ff1ng5

Edit: 2nd link.

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Reply # 2077795 23-Aug-2018 10:04

rayonline:

So it's possible for an electrician to use one at the lounge and use the other at one of the bedroom without pulling apart walls and redoing the cables?

Given you are looking at something that is very "off book" in terms of design you want a data cable installer, not an electrician...

I've done what you have described on a single run, from one outlet to the next, but....

Assuming the cable is up to it, you will have to determine where the runs go, and only the phone pair will have been terminated at each outlet so if it goes via a 3rd outlet you will need to find it and then patch the data pairs through - this will potentially impact on final performance

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Reply # 2077830 23-Aug-2018 11:21

lNomNoml:

So I take it you have considered a powerline solution?

Thanks for the all the help guys.

Yes, they have a Powerline setup already. Yes, they could just purchase another unit for their upstairs one of the bedrooms. Currently they have the router and ONT at the dining room (far corner of the house) - previous owner. To get to the separate lounge thru a double door (and pass the kitchen) they found the WiFi connection was not stable. Powerline (ethernet / WiFi) was added in. Basically getting 50Mbps if i recall correctly. They have 2 PCs there connected to the Powerline with ethernet cable.