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Topic # 242567 3-Nov-2018 17:04
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Hi Network gurus


I have been reading a lot about my options but would appreciate if you can give me some pointers to firm up my plans.


At the moment my setup goes like this:


Fibre -> ONT - > Huawei 659b -> Netcomm 200 mbps Powerline (all in garage at far end of house)


Netcomm 200 mbps Powerline -> TP-link router used as AP (the other end of the house) ...> TV


Most of the network activity is at the end of the house away from the garage and one level up and one level down. Problem is speed one level up and one level down; and coverage one level down.


I had to use Powerline as there was no easy way to run an ethernet cable between the Huawei and the TP-Link. However, I have been doing some investigations...




My recent findings:


The house has an underfloor crawl space from the garage a third of the way along the house. I have been crawling under the house whole morning and found that I could get an ethernet cable from the garage down there. I found that some of the telephone cables underfloor are actually Cat5E cables. I am thinking of repurposing the phone cable as we don't use landline (who does these days?). By doing that I can get ethernet to one of the phone jacks in the middle of the house (which is not accessible via the crawl space).




I am considering the following two options:


Option 1:


Fibre > ONT -> Huawei -> Ethernet cable (including a length of repurposed phone cat5e cable) -> Amplifi router (in the middle of the house)


Add One Mesh point upstairs and one mesh point downstairs


Potential Problem:


the TV will be streaming via wifi only. Not sure if this will be good enough.


My older Mac Pro and MacBook are 802.11n only. Connectivity to the Mac pro needs to be good for work (at the moment I have a third power line and runs an ethernet cable to it). Not sure if this option will actually make it worse.




Option 2:


Fibre -> ONT -> Huawei -> USG -> USW (in garage) -> Ethernet cable with POE


One Unifi AP in the middle of the house ground level (splicing a ethernet cable with an existing phone cable which is Cat5e)


One Unifi AP one level below (splicing a ethernet cable with an existing phone cable which is Cat5e)


Potential Problem:


Same as Option 1 but more expensive




Any other options I should consider?




Thank you in advance for any suggestions

















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  Reply # 2119285 3-Nov-2018 21:44
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The second one.


It is a bit more expensive to setup initially, (you will probably need a cloud key too) but you can easily add further Unifi APs later and extend the network easily.


Also, you don't have to keep the Huawei router, the USG can be connected directly to the ONT. It supports VLAN 10 and everything else to be able to configure it as an UFB router. This way you won't do double NAT.



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  Reply # 2119286 3-Nov-2018 21:45
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in any of those configurations I would removed the Huawei from the mix




with the mesh option you could put the base station by the TV and plug it into the back of the mess unit so it is essentially its connected via a cable back to the master unit.


either of those options should give you a better connection that what you currently have via the power line kit


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  Reply # 2119314 3-Nov-2018 23:15
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With the Mesh Wifi option, the best I could do is to have the Amplifi router unit (the one that looks like a cube) in the middle of the house, as this is as far as the ethernet cable can go from the ONT. I cannot get it close to the TV. So the TV internet connection will have to be Wifi, and cannot be by physical wiring.




With Option 2 (Unifi AP etc) - Do I need to have both USG and USW upfront? Can I just get the Unifi AP's and run ethernet cables between them and the Huawei for the time being, and then add the USG / USW as fund allows? Or is it a all-or-nothing kind of set up?

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  Reply # 2119331 4-Nov-2018 07:13
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The great thing about the Unifi gear is that you can build it piece by piece. For the second option, buying an AP or two and running cables back to the Huawei will work perfectly fine - you'll just need to use the (included) PoE injectors at the Huawei end to power the APs. Once you decided to get a USW, the injectors can be discarded.

Once the funds are available to get a USG, you'll be able to drop the Huawei also, as others have suggested. Just put it in a cupboard somewhat handy though - most ISPs will only faulting their gear, so you may need to plug it back in if you ever have an issue further down the track - even if it's not with your gear.

You won't need to get a cloud key either - the great @michaelmurfy runs a community cloud that anyone on Geek Zone can ask nicely to use free.

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  Reply # 2119333 4-Nov-2018 07:21
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Thank you George!


Thats what I want to hear.


I think I will get a Long Range Unifi AP and put it in the mid house and cabled it back to Huawei


I will retire the TP-Link (which is currently working as an AP at the opposite end of the house from the Huawei linked by Powerline)


I am hoping that the coverage of the Unifi would be better than the TP-Link, and since the backhaul is cabled it will be more efficient too.


I will see on the TV works via Wifi. if it does not work well I will leave the Powerline for the TV


I may need another AP somewhere else one level down, but it will be as fund allows.

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  Reply # 2119678 4-Nov-2018 22:36
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I have bought myself a Unifi AC LR and 20 m of Cat6 cable, and spent the afternoon installing it.


I must say it is great - now Wifi coverage is excellent in the living, kitchen area (at the opposite end of the house from the ONT and Huawei router). The Wifi at the "basement" level is quite good - it was not usable before. The Wifi in the upstairs bedroom is "ok", according to the wife. This is with both the Huawei Wifi disabled and the TP-Link taken out. I still have the Powerline in place for the TV, so not to stress the Wifi.




Overall, I am very happy with the investment.


Questions I am having now:


(1) Shall I get a EdgeRouter X to replace the Huawei? How much performance gain would I expect? I like the EdgeRouter X has it has a router, a switch and POE built in, and the price is right.


(2) Is it safe to turn the Wifi of the Huawei back on which is using the same SSID? The Huawei is closer to the upstairs bedroom, separated by the floor only. May be this will help the upstair bedroom Wifi speed? Or is it going to interfere with the Unifi I just installed? Or Am I better getting another Unifi for that?





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