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#243 28-May-2003 20:49
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OK. I spent a lot of time to get this running, and I'm usually not that stupid that I don't know how to follow a step by step guide. Here's what I've set up:

 


 

Notebook has a WLAN connection for internet access. WLAN network connection is ICS-enabled for the BT network connection.

 

IP settings in BT network connection: IP adress 192.168.0.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, default gateway 10.0.0.1 (the IP of the WLAN access point), DNS 10.0.0.1 (I also tried 192.168.0.1 for the DNS)

 

I did not changed any TCPIP settings in my WLAN network connection (IP adress is 10.0.0.2, DNS and gateway 10.0.0.1).

 

In the BT software (Widcomm 1.3.2.19) I have enabled the network access service and have set the drop down field to the 3rd option ("allow devices to access Internet and LANs").

 

On the Clie I have created a network connection via Bluetooth, no username/password, PPP, no timeout, query IP and DNS automatically (I also tried to set manually).

 


 

When I click on "connect", I can see on the Notebook that the Clie sucessfully connects to the Notebook via the network BT profile. The status icon for the BT network connection changes to connection state, the ballon "connected at 700kB/s" pops up. So far, so good. But when I open the network status icon, I can see that the data flow is only from Clie to Notebook, but not vice versa, that means it states an amound of data packages received, but "zero" sent. The Clie hangs for some seconds at the "Signing on" state and then brings the error message "PPP timeout 0x1231".

 


 

When I look into the log on the Clie, I see the following:

 


 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 

LCP->CfgReq

 


 

LCP Timeout

 


 


 

Note that the arrow is always pointing in the same direction, which also prooves that only data from Clie to PC were being transmitted, but not a single byte were received.

 


 

I'm going to get really crazy about that. My BT setup used to work very flawlessly in the past, f.i. I'm using it with several GMS phones to synchronize. I got my Clie NX70V some days ago and also got a PEGA-MSB1 BT stick for it. Everything works fine: Connecting from Clie to my GMS phone via BT, Hotsyncing the Clie via BT. Only this internet thing won't work.

 


 

Anyone any suggestions?

 


 


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#375 28-May-2003 22:48
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You can try this... On your Clie open the Prefs application, and change to Network.

Select your network to the Bluetooth, and edit its script. Add these lines:

SEND CR
DELAY 1
SEND CLIENT
WAITFOR CLIENTSERVER
END

Try again and let us know the results




 

 

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#377 28-May-2003 23:54
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YOU ARE GOD!! :D

Thank you very much. This was it! I already fount this hint of yours in one of the other threads. Problem was that I thought that I would have to replace "CLIENT" with the BT name of the Clie and "CLIENTSERVER" with the computername of my Notebook. It didn't made any sence to me that sending the words "CLIENT" and "CLIENTSERVER" would help anything.

Now I simply entered exactly these two words CLIENT and CLIENTSERVER, and e voila!

Thank you very much!

One last question: Can you explain why this is necessary and what exactly happens (I mean, I know what happens, it sends a , waits for 1 second, sends "CLIENT" and waits for the Notebook to send back "CLIENTSERVER"). I just like to understand why this is necessary.

 
 
 
 


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#381 29-May-2003 10:18
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I have a similar problem in my Pocket PC (e740bt).

1) If I use Widcomm stack 1.2.2.X in my desktop, Pocket PC connects wondefully via BT.
2) If I use Widcomm stack 1.3.2.X in my desktop, Pocket PC times out.

I looked at the logs and in situation 1) the logs mention CLIENT command and CLIENTSERVER response. However, situation 2) has really strange logs, as if it were trying to connect to a real modem. The logs start with ATZ, followed by ATE0V1&C1&D2...CONNECT 115200...ATH

How can the logs be different if it is always the Pocket PC starting the communication and nothing changes in the pocket pc side from scenario 1) to scenario 2)?

This is driving me nuts...

I tested with an IPAQ 5450 and everything works...


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#382 29-May-2003 10:21
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This actually indicates the ICS in the second configuration is not assigning an IP address, or not correctly configured. Look in our Bluetooth Guides section for a list of things to check in your BT configuration.




 

 

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#383 29-May-2003 10:30
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Glad your Clie Palm OS is connected now! The CLIENT and CLIENTSERVER sequence is just the initialisation required for the PPP stack to establish a connection. The Palm does not send it automatically, therefore we force it through the script changes...




 

 

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#384 29-May-2003 10:52
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Then how can we explain that the Toshiba e740bt is not able to connect but an Ipaq 5450 is?
Without even touching the desktop computer between one and the other...

I'm out of ideas... but perhpas there is something that the Toshiba is expecting right at the start and it is not receiving it with 1.3.2.X...

Can the utility LiteSpy (from Widcomm) be used to examine what is happening differently from one version to the other?

Thanks for all your help Mauricio...

PS. Mauricio Freitas, your name seems like a Brasilian name to me, is this correct? I'm from Portugal...

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#385 29-May-2003 11:14
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Yes, I'm Brazilian...

I've used the LiteSpy before to find problems while connecting using a Palm. I've noticed the Palm m130 using BT SD Card worked fine, but sends a Disconnect request randomly. I've collected logs, traces, everything, sent to Palm and the only reply was "This issue is too technical, we can't help". Then I sold my Palm and bougth a Pocket PC.

Anyway, I'm not sure why a H5450 would work and the E740 would fail, with same configuration.

I'll look for more info later...




 

 

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#413 6-Jun-2003 05:24
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I also tried with the lan access driver version 1.4.1 beta 4 (from DELL) and my PDA connects to the LAN without problems.

It should have been some incompatibility with 1.3.2.7 lan access driver...

I can't wait to install the full 1.4 Widcomm drivers.

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#2039 31-Oct-2003 04:57
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IP settings in BT network connection: IP adress 192.168.0.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, default gateway 192.168.1.1 (the IP of the my Linux router that I use for firewalled internet access), DNS x.x.x.x (the DNS server I am using)
I did not changed any TCPIP settings in my WLAN network connection (IP adress is 10.0.0.2, DNS and gateway 10.0.0.1).
In the BT software (Widcomm 1.3.5) I have enabled the network access service and have set the drop down field to the 3rd option ("allow devices to access Internet and LANs").
On the Clie I have created a network connection via Bluetooth, no username/password, PPP, no timeout, query IP and DNS automatically (I also tried to set manually).

When I click on "connect", I can see on the Notebook that the Clie sucessfully connects to the Notebook via the network BT profile. The status icon for the BT network access changes to connection state, (green with two arrows pointing at eachother). But when I right click to view the status of my network access, I can see that the data flow is only from Clie to Notebook, but not vice versa. The Clie hangs for some seconds at the "Signing on" state and then brings the error message "PPP timeout 0x1231".


Clie log

Connect Log


S: ^M
S: CLIENT
R: ~@!}!} } }.}"}&} } } } }!}$}&@%:~CLIENTSERVER
LCP->CfgReq
LCP->CfgReq
LCP<-CfgRejBadID
LCP<-CfgRej
LCP->CfgReq
LCP<-CfgAck
LCP<-CfgReq
LCP->CfgAck
LCP Up
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP<-CfgReq
IPCP->CfgAck
IPCP<-CfgRej
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP->CfgReq
IPCP Timeout
LCP->TrmReq
LCP<-TrmAck

Not connected

Her e is the script in my CLie network settings:
SEND CR
DELAY 1
SEND CLIENT
WAITFOR CLIENTSERVER
END
(exactly the way u said in your other posts ;) )

if you have any solutions...please let me know.
Thanks

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#2040 31-Oct-2003 06:32
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pb resolved...I was sharing my BT network connection instead of my WAN connection with my BT..... (slap on the head!!!)


PS:anyone know any nice network applications for PDAs????

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#2100 7-Nov-2003 07:57
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Please help, I have no idea how many hours I've put into trying to get ICS to work. I have a Belkin F8T001 v2, a T3, and Win2k. In my Network Connections, I only see one thing, the LAN connection here at the office, and nothing else. I have the Belkin BT software installed, and I don't see any 'Bluetooth Network' or 'Bluetooth Dialup' etc. I also don't see the 'Sharing' tab when I click on my LAN properties. I've spent about an hour searching for how to reinstall/restore it, but come up with nothing.
Therefore, I can't get my PC to set up ICS for my T3. I'm desperate. Thanks.

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#2101 7-Nov-2003 08:15
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Neoesis, your problem is probably a corrupted users information on your Windows 2000 machine.

If you right-click the Bluetooth icon in the system tray, select Advanced Configuration, and change to the Local Services tab, are you able to see a list of services, like this?




First make sure you have Aministrator rights on this machine, before installing the software. If you do have Admin rights and still this failed to install properly, try creating a new user with Admin rights, and use this new user to install.

If the installation finished ok and now you have all services, the software should work fine, just follow the guides. Remember then that this problem may happen when trying to install other software in the future too.




 

 

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#2102 7-Nov-2003 09:05
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My account has Admin rights on this system, but I will try adding another using and reinstalling the Belkin software (if that's what you were referring to by 'reinstalling'). I've already tried logging in as the actual 'Administrator' and enabling ICS, but there still is no Sharing tab on the LAN connection. I am currently able to see the Local Services screen on my Advanced Configuration options, and all of the services are set up as shown in your figure. Only the Network Access, File Transfer, and Bluetooth Serial Port are set to Automatic.
Also, I cannot do a Bluetooth HotSync, because the Bluetooth Serial Port only offers 'COM0' in the dropdown box (so the Local Services screen shows no COM ports for any service). My HotSync Manager, however, only allows for a selection of COM1 or COM2. I am sure that this is the only barrier that's preventing me from using BT to HotSync (because I've done it in the past, and I remember that I had to make the two COM ports match, but now I don't know how to get them to show the same numbers in the selection). I already have my HotSync Manager set to allow Local USB (my normal method) and Local Serial. Thanks.

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#2104 8-Nov-2003 08:41
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Ok, I uninstalled/reinstalled my Belkin software, and that finally gave me back my 'Sharing' tab on my primary LAN connection, as well as set up the Bluetooth Connection for my system. I set up ICS for my LAN and I can get a connection to my T3, but I keep getting a DNS server query timeout. I've tried every combination of settings that I can think of, using the correct IP for our network server, and I just can't get WebPro to connect to the Net.
I tried setting the IP for my T3 to automatic; didn't work, then I tried setting the device IP to one on our network's range; didn't work, both in conjunction with the 'Query DNS' option on; then I tried both IP settings with the actual DNS address entered, still yeilding the same result, a DNS query timeout for WebPro. I just can't figure out what I'm missing...

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#2105 8-Nov-2003 09:53
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Can you PING from the Palm? Also, there's an update for the WebPro browser for the Palm T3, have you installed it?




 

 

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