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# 243929 9-Jan-2019 12:30
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Hi All,

 

I need help on setting up my network at home.

 

Recently i got connected with Fibre and the ISP is giving a low cost modem that i want to replace it with something like Cisco that has no wireless and it does only WAN to LAN.

 

This Cisco Modem model must support IPoE protocol and VLAN ID: 10.

 

Or if cisco has no solution then where can i find any model that has no wifi and it is only a modem with above mentioned protocol?

 

NOTE: it is very confusing for many people to mix Modems with routers hence they do come in one package most of the time but they also come as wifi routers that won't have the capability of dialing with IPoE protocol (or i may be wrong).

 

I have a Cisco867VAE i wish i could use this device to connect, but this is capable for ADSL/VDSL and not sure if it can support IPoE via virtual port.

 

 

 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Brands i'm looking on are as per below:

 

1. Cisco

 

2. Ubiquity

 

3. Netgear

 

4. SonicWall

 

5. Fortinet

 

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  # 2156968 9-Jan-2019 12:37
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You want a firewall/router, not a modem. 

 

 

 

What speed connection are you getting?


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  # 2156969 9-Jan-2019 12:41
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i take it you havent read the sticky at the top of the fourm?

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=197871

 

 

 

start there and if you have any specific questions then ask :)


 
 
 
 


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  # 2156976 9-Jan-2019 12:51
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Your Cisco 867VAE has a Gigabit Ethernet WAN interface so can be used (I'm not saying it can route at gigabit speed). IPoE just means to use DHCP client on interface, e.g.,

 

interface GigabitEthernet0.10
description ISP DHCP WAN
encap dot1q 10
ip address dhcp client-id GigabitEthernet0.10
ip nat outside
ip virtual-reassembly in
duplex auto
speed auto

 

 




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  # 2156981 9-Jan-2019 12:59
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Trust you are correct, and thanks for your response, yet to try, will let you know the results.


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  # 2156982 9-Jan-2019 13:00
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barrynz:

 

Hi All,

 

I need help on setting up my network at home.

 

Recently i got connected with Fibre and the ISP is giving a low cost modem that i want to replace it with something like Cisco that has no wireless and it does only WAN to LAN.

 

This Cisco Modem model must support IPoE protocol and VLAN ID: 10.

 

Or if cisco has no solution then where can i find any model that has no wifi and it is only a modem with above mentioned protocol?

 

NOTE: it is very confusing for many people to mix Modems with routers hence they do come in one package most of the time but they also come as wifi routers that won't have the capability of dialing with IPoE protocol (or i may be wrong).

 

I have a Cisco867VAE i wish i could use this device to connect, but this is capable for ADSL/VDSL and not sure if it can support IPoE via virtual port.

 

 

 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Brands i'm looking on are as per below:

 

1. Cisco

 

2. Ubiquity

 

3. Netgear

 

4. SonicWall

 

5. Fortinet

 

==============================================

 

 

Who's your ISP? Given that you mentioned VLAN support, I assume it's one of the ISP's that require VLAN tagging. You just need router or firewall device not a modem. Something like an UBNT EdgeRouter would work perfectly but there also a ton of Cisco gear that could do this. Depends on budget and features you are after.

 

Depends on what you are wanting to achieve by replacing the ISP issued router? It's going to deliver the speed you signed up for.




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  # 2156984 9-Jan-2019 13:00
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Thanks for that Link, i will have a quick go through it.


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  # 2156986 9-Jan-2019 13:02
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you dont need a MODEM you need a ROUTER


 
 
 
 




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  # 2156992 9-Jan-2019 13:09
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Thanks for your comments,

 

No the goal isn't to achieve more speed, the goal is to have the provided speed 200/20 with more controlled traffic through firewall etc.


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  # 2156994 9-Jan-2019 13:13
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As has been previously stated, IPoE simply means that the interface should be configured with a DHCP client. More than likely your Sonicwall can be connected directly to the ONT (DHCP client + vlan 10 tag on WAN).

 

P.S. Cisco LAN interface is only fastEthernet so can't do 200 down.


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  # 2156999 9-Jan-2019 13:24
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The 867VAE is an old, low-end Cisco unit that will probably have difficulty routing more than 50Mbps even without any of the traffic control features you're hoping to use.

 

I would suggest a Ubiquity Edgerouter Lite would be the most suitable modern replacement.

 

Edit: oops, on re-reading you don't need to buy anything at all. Just use your existing Sonicwall setup as Spyware has suggested.

 

If it helps, remember that an ONT effectively IS the modem. There is no need to add any kind of "modem" to a fibre setup.


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  # 2157000 9-Jan-2019 13:25
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This Sonicwall document http://help.sonicwall.com/help/sw/eng/7634/8/0/0/content/Configuring_Device_Management_Network_Page.10.05.htm

 

provides all the info you need to set up a vlan tagged subinterface and configure said sub interface as a DHCP client (IPoE).


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  # 2157001 9-Jan-2019 13:25
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barrynz:

 

Thanks for your comments,

 

No the goal isn't to achieve more speed, the goal is to have the provided speed 200/20 with more controlled traffic through firewall etc.

 

 

Then a router as simple as the UBNT EdgeRouter X will do - https://www.gowifi.co.nz/nonwireless/er-x.html

 

Very simple to configure and setup. Just tag the port and away you go. All ports a gig and its reasonably priced.

 

Cheers




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  # 2157006 9-Jan-2019 13:31
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Ok i have changed my belief that IPoE is part of the router and not the modem :) thanks, however in my sonicwall i have checked the options for wan port to be setup with IPoE but it doesn't give that option, it only shows PPPoE and two other protocols that i can't remember, as for Cisco that can get 200 down no issues hence it has 2 x Gbps ports - one is for WAN as you stated earlier and the other can route traffic to my lan, i will try that but it will be interesting to see it working.


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  # 2157008 9-Jan-2019 13:33
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IPoE simply means that you configure as a DHCP client (rather than PPPoE or static).




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  # 2157010 9-Jan-2019 13:37
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Fantastic, thanks for your suggestion, i will consider it as my next move as i do like their quality.

 

 

 

 


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