Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


quantummania

10 posts

Wannabe Geek
+1 received by user: 1


#248467 27-Mar-2019 15:14
Send private message

Current setup is a Asus DSL-Ac68u router (was on VDSL) this is now reconfigured and using port 4 as a WAN port. Speed tests are only getting 400Mbs and should reach 700-900.
Would swapping to a RT-AC68u help? Does the DSL side limit these routers? Should I get a different brand router? This router is not doing Wifi and both radios are off. I do like the Asus routers. 


Create new topic
sbiddle
30853 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9996

Retired Mod
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  #2205732 27-Mar-2019 15:39
Send private message

Pretty sure these routers are not powerful enough to route 1Gbps which is the exact result you're seeing.

 

Best router for Gigabit performance is the one that Vodafone supply.

 

 

 

 




l43a2
1784 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 591

ID Verified
Trusted

  #2205750 27-Mar-2019 16:21
Send private message

yeah the ISP supplied router is actually pretty good at getting you the speeds you pay for.






CrashAndBurn
693 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 105


  #2205753 27-Mar-2019 16:24
Send private message

I was on the same boat with my N55U and ended up using the one provided by ISP.




quantummania

10 posts

Wannabe Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  #2205756 27-Mar-2019 16:37
Send private message

So is that the Vodafone Ultra Hub? They have not supplied one. If I have to purchase one I would rather purchase something like a Nighthawk X10 or similar. Ideas for non vodafone routers? 


Spyware
3817 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1366

Lifetime subscriber

  #2205766 27-Mar-2019 16:52
Send private message

Given its not doing wifi just buy a Huawei HG659 off TM for $20. Or maybe an Edgerouter.


michaelmurfy
meow
13579 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10910

Moderator
ID Verified
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2205790 27-Mar-2019 17:59
Send private message

Honestly - do not waste your money on those sorts of routers. You're paying top dollar for a device that isn't worth that. Both the Asus and Netgear routers have rubbish routing performance for the price.

 

If you're needing a basic router that "just works" then the Huawei HG659. Otherwise ask Vodafone for one of their routers. 

 

What are you needing from the Asus that the Huawei HG659 doesn't offer?





Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Referral Links: Quic Broadband (use R122101E7CV7Q for free setup)

Are you happy with what you get from Geekzone? Please consider supporting us by subscribing.
Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.


 
 
 

Move to New Zealand's best fibre broadband service (affiliate link). Free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE. Note that to use Quic Broadband you must be comfortable with configuring your own router.
cyril7
9073 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2499

ID Verified
Trusted
Subscriber

  #2206053 28-Mar-2019 07:39
Send private message

Hi, interesting response, but as has been suggested a Huawei off TM for $20 will with pretty much all certainty out perform your recommended candidates.

The folk commenting here do so from a reasonably established understanding of the matter, and work at many levels in both the IT network and ISP space.

Cyril

allio
895 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 528


  #2206106 28-Mar-2019 09:36
Send private message

chevrolux: But the HG659 doesnt even have antennas?!?!?! And it will make heaps of lag when I'm playing fortnite.
The Asus has waaaaay more antenna and is like $600 so it must be better than the huawei thing.
Plus I heard Vodafone have backdoors in to huawei and the Chinese are snooping on them too.
God, can't believe a tech site would recommend huawei. Have you even tested the performance?!?!?!

 

Underappreciated post.

 

OP: Usually the models with integrated modems have massively watered-down internals compared to the dedicated router models. I remember the DSL-N66U was a totally different router internally to the much superior RT-N66U. However I just looked it up and the DSL-AC68U basically is an RT-AC68U with a VDSL modem bolted on. They have the same chipset (BCM4708+2xBCM4360 @800MHz) and should be capable of the same routing performance, including routing gigabit with hardware offload enabled. Without hardware offload and doing all routing in software you would expect to see about 400Mbps, which is what you are getting.

 

You may be using features/settings that are incompatible with hardware offload (main offender is usually QoS). I'd try resetting the router to default settings, making sure hardware offload is on, establishing a bare connection and checking the speed. Then try building up to your previous config.


eong
100 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 31


  #2206372 28-Mar-2019 15:55
Send private message

quantummania:

 

Current setup is a Asus DSL-Ac68u router (was on VDSL) this is now reconfigured and using port 4 as a WAN port. Speed tests are only getting 400Mbs and should reach 700-900.
Would swapping to a RT-AC68u help? Does the DSL side limit these routers? Should I get a different brand router? This router is not doing Wifi and both radios are off. I do like the Asus routers. 

 

 

 

 

It depends on how you are connected.

 

You said you turned off Wifi, I would suggest edgerouter-x from ubnt. It's really cheap(just $100) but it has hardware offload(NAT) and can provide you with solid performance around 900Mbps. No Wifi, small size, POE support.

 

You can find the key parameters in their website

 

* 260 kpps for 64-byte packets
* 1 Gbps for 1518-byte packets

 

You can easily test your router using iperf3 and compare. 





Just a geek/coder.

 


eong
100 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 31


  #2206395 28-Mar-2019 16:04
Send private message

allio:

 

chevrolux: But the HG659 doesnt even have antennas?!?!?! And it will make heaps of lag when I'm playing fortnite.
The Asus has waaaaay more antenna and is like $600 so it must be better than the huawei thing.
Plus I heard Vodafone have backdoors in to huawei and the Chinese are snooping on them too.
God, can't believe a tech site would recommend huawei. Have you even tested the performance?!?!?!

 

Underappreciated post.

 

OP: Usually the models with integrated modems have massively watered-down internals compared to the dedicated router models. I remember the DSL-N66U was a totally different router internally to the much superior RT-N66U. However I just looked it up and the DSL-AC68U basically is an RT-AC68U with a VDSL modem bolted on. They have the same chipset (BCM4708+2xBCM4360 @800MHz) and should be capable of the same routing performance, including routing gigabit with hardware offload enabled. Without hardware offload and doing all routing in software you would expect to see about 400Mbps, which is what you are getting.

 

You may be using features/settings that are incompatible with hardware offload (main offender is usually QoS). I'd try resetting the router to default settings, making sure hardware offload is on, establishing a bare connection and checking the speed. Then try building up to your previous config.

 

 

Using a small pc with Linux to act as a router is also an option. It's even faster than those hardware offload ones from my own test. I can get 950Mbps in iperf3 test via such a small machine(intel i3 cpu) and amazing packet forwarding speed.





Just a geek/coder.

 


freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
80646 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 41024

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #2206432 28-Mar-2019 17:20
Send private message

@chevrolux please keep sarcasm and unhelpful replies out of discussions. It does not help and makes you look bad.




Referral links: Quic Broadband (free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE) | Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies 

 

Support Geekzone by subscribing (browse ads-free), or making a one-off or recurring donation through PressPatron.

 


 
 
 
 

Shop now for Lenovo laptops and other devices (affiliate link).
chevrolux
4962 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2638
Inactive user


  #2206510 28-Mar-2019 19:15
Send private message

Fair enough!

Create new topic








Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.