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smidon

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#249485 13-May-2019 11:52

Hi guys

I'm also commenting in the Spark Sport streaming thread about difficulties I'm having streaming Spark Sport

@oblivian suggests I seek help here re. set up.

What I have is ...

A large 320sqm double story old villa, heavy beams, thick walls, 3-layered (false ceiling, ceiling & floor) between up/down
A CAT06 LAN spreading through the house from a hub in the basement
Spark fibre to the house, coming in via one of the wires to a LAN hub, because although we designed the whole thing for a wire coming in underground, Chorus in their infinite wisdom brought it in above ground to the top of the 2 storey house
So the fibre comes in to the attic, down through one of our LAN ethernet cables to the hub, out to the modem, then back to the hub
Modem is Spark Huawei standard issue, creating the ethenet lan and 2 x wifi networks (5G and not)
an early Apple airport express in a room downstairs far away from the Huawei, ethernet connected to the LAN, operating in bridge mode
a recent Apple airport extreme upstairs, ethernet connected to the LAN, operating in bridge mode
on one TV, an old Apple TV(3), ethernet connected
on a 2nd TV, a brand new ChromeCast Ultra, ethernet connected directly from a LAN port on the Huawei modem
A near-new Windows 10 PC and an elderly (2014'ish) Apple iMac both ethernet connected to the LAN
numerous phones, laptops, tablets, Amazon Echo and God knows what else all using the wifi network(s)

Problems ...

1) DCHP problems from time to time, especially the iMac and the laptops (interestingly, very rarely if ever affecting the near-new Dell PC) ... resolution 90% of the time is achieved by reset DCHP menu on the iMac (or switch wifi network on the other devices)

2) Nightmares getting the CCu to cast ... this is my major hassle. Typical use case is to use an iPad on the non-5G wifi network (because it's in the immediate vicinity of the Huawei modem, and that modem emanates a rubbish 5G wifi signal). The CCu nightmares are variously ... black screen ... picture but no sound ... total loss of control of where in the stream we are if we do anything other than play and leave it alone (so pause, fwd, rew takes the devices out of sync, at times by hours in a stream)

Oblivian (here) reckons I've almost certainly got a badly designed network. I could do with some advice. I am not a techy BTW, so in plain English please.

Many thanks, Don

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#2235876 13-May-2019 12:03

LAN hub = patch panel??

smidon

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#2235878 13-May-2019 12:07

Yes it's a patch panel with a mess of wires and a TP-Link device ... TL-SF1008D I don't know what that does.

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#2235882 13-May-2019 12:13

Its a switch. I wouldn't have the WAN side traffic going through that switch. ONT should connect directly to the WAN interface on the Huawei router.

smidon

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#2235884 13-May-2019 12:14

What is ONT?

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#2235886 13-May-2019 12:15

How many devices do you have on your network (per the HG659b menu if possible)

Your DHCP Description sounds heavily like your hitting the device limit on the HG659b and thus it's popping devices off the mac table.

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smidon

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#2235887 13-May-2019 12:17

OK, how do I look up that menu?

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#2235890 13-May-2019 12:18

smidon:

What is ONT?

ONT (Optical Network Terminal) is the Chorus box in attic that coverts from GPON to Ethernet over copper.

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smidon

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#2235892 13-May-2019 12:23

Spyware:

smidon:

What is ONT?

The Chorus box in attic that coverts from GPON to Ethernet over copper.

Thank you. Given the chorus feed had to come into one of our upstairs ethernet cables, I'll have to check the cable routing somehow. There's a bunch of the blue CAT06's connected to it. We had an Electrician and Chorus here setting that up.

smidon

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#2235893 13-May-2019 12:28

hio77:

How many devices do you have on your network (per the HG659b menu if possible)

Your DHCP Description sounds heavily like your hitting the device limit on the HG659b and thus it's popping devices off the mac table.

So I googled and it says go to 192.168.1.1

I entered that into browser and got ...

This site can’t be reached

192.168.1.1 took too long to respond.

What does that tell us?

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#2235894 13-May-2019 12:32

My setup is similar, I will detail that in case its of help.

Largeish house 283sqm

Spark Fibre 100/20 to garage patch panel, that can feed 12 ethernet ports around the house

Huawei 659b connected to the ONT, wifi off

Ethernet ports connected to the 659b are upstairs where I work, living room which runs a Chinese streaming box, formal living room that has TV, ethernet connected Airport Extreme in bridge mode, which feeds by cable, the ATV4, Skybox, Freeview box.

The wifi from the Airport Extreme works great, despite the stairwell in between, it allows the 15yo to stream upstairs, I assume she uses 2.4, I'll ask.

I use CCu or Airplay, both on 5Ghz as I'm LOS 4 metres, and it works great on SS. From iPad Air 1

If I was watching SS, there will be that, Chinese box, 15yo, all these are streaming. plus other bits and bobs , all works well

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#2235898 13-May-2019 12:35

smidon:

hio77:

How many devices do you have on your network (per the HG659b menu if possible)

Your DHCP Description sounds heavily like your hitting the device limit on the HG659b and thus it's popping devices off the mac table.

So I googled and it says go to 192.168.1.1

I entered that into browser and got ...

This site can’t be reached

192.168.1.1 took too long to respond.

What does that tell us?

Not much. What is the address of the machine you're using to get to the router? 192.168.xx.xx - that will tell you what the router address it. Could be 192.168.0.1, 10.1.1.1 - there's a bunch of possibles.

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#2235905 13-May-2019 12:41

smidon:

hio77:

How many devices do you have on your network (per the HG659b menu if possible)

Your DHCP Description sounds heavily like your hitting the device limit on the HG659b and thus it's popping devices off the mac table.

So I googled and it says go to 192.168.1.1

I entered that into browser and got ...

This site can’t be reached

192.168.1.1 took too long to respond.

What does that tell us?

192.168.1.254

user: admin

password: admin

Select Home network (think it's the third big button from memory).

there will be a number of devices right there.

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#2235907 13-May-2019 12:42

davidcole:

What is the address of the machine you're using to get to the router? 192.168.xx.xx - that will tell you what the router address it. Could be 192.168.0.1, 10.1.1.1 - there's a bunch of possibles.

Ok, following my nose in settings (it's the Spark 5G connection) it has a series of addresses ..

IPv4 address 192.168.1.78

IPv 4 DNS servers 192.168.1.254

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#2235908 13-May-2019 12:43

smidon:
Yes it's a patch panel with a mess of wires and a TP-Link device ... TL-SF1008D I don't know what that does.

Don

You’ve got numerous things going on here, so go slow and see what happens.

This is the first thing you should try and address. The sequence should literally be Ethernet from your ONT - the Chorus white box - to the WAN port of your Huawei, without transitting any other powered device in the meantime (TP-Link). Your patch panel should allow you to plug in the ONT cable on one port, and PATCH across to the port number where your Huawei is connected. That’s the whole point of patching

Before you plug the switch back into the sequence, perhaps consider using the wifi on the Huawei first with a limited number of devices and see what happens.

Your network is not atypical of any family, just Get comfy with the knowledge you might need to make some changes (which will mean spending)

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smidon

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#2235910 13-May-2019 12:46

@antoniosk thank you and I'll get back to you in a sec.

But first, the device query as above ..

4 x WLAN devices

7 x connected devices

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