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thurgarton

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#251525 29-Jun-2019 12:40
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Hi there

 

Our fibre ONT is going to be installed in our garage, from the modem I had planned to run a cat6 cable up to a switch in the roof space and from there have some ethernet ports installed in a few places where AV equipment might be and to a wireless access point. I had asked to keep our existing phone wiring when I bought the fibre. 

 

I discovered that there is already a cat5e cable that carries our phone line running from the garage, up into the roof space and then down to where our existing phone is, I think it daisy chains to another phone point as a second cable comes back up to the roof space again and off across the ceiling. Our phone points are rj45 connections and we use an adapter to plug a standard phone in. 

 

Given that there is already a network cable that is probably good enough for home use already running where I need it to go, could I somehow break or split the cable at both the garage and the roof ends so that it can carry the data from the modem as well as the phone from the garage to a switch in the roof space, and connect the existing wall points plus any new ones to the switch and have the phone still work? 

 

The garage is not directly connected to the roof space as we are on more than one level, but I don't think that it would be too hard to run a new dedicated cable though following the existing cables if that was simpler. 

 

Apologies if the above is fairly nonsensical, as you can probably tell I'm not technically minded. 

 

Thanks 

 

   


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  #2266797 29-Jun-2019 13:02
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Yes technically this can be done but you sacrifice speed, if you want a 1Gbit LAN then the answer is no. If you split you drop to 100Mbps.

 

 




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  #2266800 29-Jun-2019 13:12
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Do you still need the POTS (old style) landline? I'd switch to an IP service myself, or dump the landline entirely.  

 

I'm not sure I like the idea of electronics in the roof space either, does it get really really hot in the summer?  Could you route it down into a closet that has power switches? Maybe try to setup that as a network hub area and run the cables back into the roof/under the house to the positions you want.

 

 

 

 


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  #2266801 29-Jun-2019 13:14
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sqishy:

 

Yes technically this can be done but you sacrifice speed, if you want a 1Gbit LAN then the answer is no. If you split you drop to 100Mbps.

 

 

 

 

cat5e runs at 1gbps.  I didn't totally understand what they want though... why would speed drop to 100mbps? 




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  #2266802 29-Jun-2019 13:19
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Use of splitters to provide 2 x (2 pairs), i.e.,  2 pairs for Ethernet at 100 Mbps and another pair for phone.


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  #2266806 29-Jun-2019 13:26
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When you say a cat 5e cable, do you mean a blue cable? it may be marked 5e, are you confident all 8 wires are correctly connected each end? ie is it just 2 wires for the telephone?





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  #2266813 29-Jun-2019 14:14
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Spyware:

 

Use of splitters to provide 2 x (2 pairs), i.e.,  2 pairs for Ethernet at 100 Mbps and another pair for phone.

 

 

Gotcha, I wouldn't drop down to 100Mbps...maybe it is better for the OP to wire the second cable from the garage and use that for data, and the other can remain intact for the existing phone wiring. 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2266814 29-Jun-2019 14:29
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Hi, if there is cable already in place then and its ceiling access then why not just use the existing as a draw wire (assuming  it pulls cleanly) and add more cat5e or 6 runs from the ONT as required.

 

Edit: also where the first phone point is, would this place make a good WiFi location, that way you could place the router, use the ATA in it (assuming it has one) to run the phone and also use it as a switch to feed further onward circuits.

 

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  #2266913 29-Jun-2019 17:06
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Thanks Cyril (and everyone else)

 

That what I was leaning towards doing, using the existing wire as a draw wire.

 

The existing phone point is where our current VDSL modem/wifi is located but it isn't a great location, we have to use a plug in range extender which works ok but I thought I'd use the installation of fibre as an opportunity to see if there is a neater way of running internet in our home within financial reason, I'm grateful for all of the advice. 

 

Cheers

 

Alex


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  #2266946 29-Jun-2019 17:41
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If you go with 2degrees they give you a Fritz!Box. From here, you can buy a 2nd one from them for $160 and use this to extend WiFi (via Mesh) and also use the phone ports on it for your phone. This means it can be located anywhere in the house where you want the phone.

Just an idea to do it cheaply. Then you don’t need the extender.




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