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# 255495 14-Aug-2019 13:05
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I have a Spark supplied Fibre modem plugged into my ONT and my broadband is with Spark. Will get model number but it is new as I only recently signed up.

 

I would like to increase the range/speed of my connection to further corners of my home and upstairs bedroom.

 

I have a Gigabit GF1V fibre modem as spare. Can I use this? (http://www.energyimports.co.nz/products.html) First product on the page.

 

1. Can I use the Gigabit fibre modem to extend the range by changing DHCP settings and act as an AP? I would need help and exact settings to change as this extends beyond my general knowledge.

 

2. Can I connect the Gigabit to the spark modem via Wifi, and then 'piggyback' the connection? Or,

 

3. Will I have to connect the Gigabit to the spark modem via ethernet? 

 

 

 

Alternatively, connect the Gigabit to the ONT, and use the Spark modem as range extender via wifi/ethernet? Not sure technical specs of both/which wold be better to provide an additional AP.

 

 

 

Many thanks.


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  # 2299177 14-Aug-2019 13:19
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Your best bet would be to run an ethernet cable between them, set the spare second modem to a different IP address than the first, turn off DHCP, and set the wireless SSID to the same name, same password, but different channel. Then plug it in via any of the LAN ports. 


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  # 2299189 14-Aug-2019 13:32
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I have two HG659s configured as above basically. One has the 2.4ghz set to 20mhz only the other is 20/40 otherwise that seems to cause one of my devices issues switching APs as fast as it's little legs can carry it. Otherwise it's smooth sailing for 5ghz.

I'm actually considering getting an edgerouter and still using the HG659s both as APs but I don't know if that's a dumb idea or not.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2299194 14-Aug-2019 13:38
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Delphinus:

 

Your best bet would be to run an enternet cable between them, set the spare second modem to a different IP address than the first, turn off DHCP, and set the wireless SSID to the same name, same password, but different channel. Then plug it in via any of the LAN ports. 

 

 

Basically this.

 

There is no way to connect it via WiFi - you need a cable. 


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  # 2299203 14-Aug-2019 13:54
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Interestingly when I tried this recently using a Vodafone Ultra Hub it wouldn't work. Any device that was connecting to the UltraHub, even with DHCP turned off, had a weird issue where the DNS was set incorrectly. IP was fine, and correct from my DHCP server, and I could ping/traceroute to internet IP's, but DNS just wouldn't work.


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  # 2299237 14-Aug-2019 14:21
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While using a router does work I never recommend it for anything except a temporary solution.

 

It always leads to tears in the end. If you want a standalone AP, use an AP.

 

 




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  # 2299270 14-Aug-2019 14:54
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Delphinus:

 

Your best bet would be to run an ethernet cable between them, set the spare second modem to a different IP address than the first, turn off DHCP, and set the wireless SSID to the same name, same password, but different channel. Then plug it in via any of the LAN ports. 

 

 

 

 

Many thanks. My issue is running the ethernet cable. Not my own place so do not want to install permanent cabling through the house to the second router.

 

I have also considered a Homeplug solution but not sure how effective these are/will be through my homes electrical system.


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  # 2299276 14-Aug-2019 14:58
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Buy the powerline networking system from a place that accepts returns, or get a wireless repeater solution (not as good).

 

I have had a router acting as an AP in the past, once you get it set up it's stable and works fine, but it's complex to set up. I currently have a router acting as an AP for a second subnet so I can use different DNS servers, setting that up was even more complex and doing it again I'd have to work it out from first principals again.


 
 
 
 




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  # 2299290 14-Aug-2019 15:16
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timmmay:

 

Buy the powerline networking system from a place that accepts returns, or get a wireless repeater solution (not as good).

 

I have had a router acting as an AP in the past, once you get it set up it's stable and works fine, but it's complex to set up. I currently have a router acting as an AP for a second subnet so I can use different DNS servers, setting that up was even more complex and doing it again I'd have to work it out from first principals again.

 

 

Yeah and then there's me, someone with no experience in this sort of thing:) All I know is I can use the second router as an AP to boost my home connection.

 

First step is to source the powerline, and then trying out different scenarios. 

 

Will update as I go along. I'm sure I'll need help as to which settings to change on the router.


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  # 2299308 14-Aug-2019 15:26
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Source a long patch lead and run it over the floor.




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  # 2300605 16-Aug-2019 21:17
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Delphinus:

 

Your best bet would be to run an ethernet cable between them, set the spare second modem to a different IP address than the first, turn off DHCP, and set the wireless SSID to the same name, same password, but different channel. Then plug it in via any of the LAN ports. 

 

 

 

 

Update:

 

So I set up the second router as above and connected ethernet cable LAN to LAN between 1 and 2.

 

I did not change the SSiD just yet, so that I could check if the second router is working or not and not get confused.

 

 

 

The second router broadcasts the name fine and I try to connect. My phone gives an error "unable to obtain IP".

 

I try a second phone and just refuses to connect to the wifi network of second router.

 

 

 

I plug a PC via ethernet to second router, and voila, all connected.

 

I even try accessing both routers from the PC connected to second router, and I get access to both.

 

Looks like its all set up, except for the wifi issue.

 

 

 

Edit (More info): I connect via wifi from PC to first router. All as normal. I am also able to access second router using the IP address I gave it.

 

 

 

Any help?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2300621 16-Aug-2019 21:40
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I don't understand the problem.

There's a good guide to setting up like this. Look around this website for the right article. On phone so can't easily find sorry.

https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Access_Point

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  # 2300653 16-Aug-2019 22:50
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Just to confirm, you definitely disabled DHCP on the 2nd router?

 

What is the IP address of the 2 routers?

 

Can you access the internet from a PC plugged into the second router?

 

Do you mind sending a picture of the back of both of them detailing which cables go where?




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  # 2300656 16-Aug-2019 23:00
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Delphinus:

 

Just to confirm, you definitely disabled DHCP on the 2nd router?

 

What is the IP address of the 2 routers?

 

Can you access the internet from a PC plugged into the second router?

 

Do you mind sending a picture of the back of both of them detailing which cables go where?

 

 

 

 

I did disable DHCP on second router.

 

Main Modem router 192.168.1.254 (Spark Router and default IP). Connected to fibre ONT. 

 

Second Router 192.168.1.253. I couldn't choose 192.168.1.255

 

Yes, as mentioned, my pc was connected to second router and internet worked. I could also access the 1st router IP while being connected to second router with ethernet cable.

 

Just the wifi seems to have issues.

 

 

 

Will load pics as soon as I can.

 

Fibre ONT to WAN Port on 1st router.

 

LAN to LAN between 2 routers.


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  # 2300706 17-Aug-2019 09:43
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What channel did you set the wireless to on each device? Could you connect to the second router previously through wifi?


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  # 2300728 17-Aug-2019 10:40
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As per @sbiddle 's comments "always leads to tears" Using a router as an AP can cause weird issues. The Huawei maybe expecting to route the WiFi traffic out its own WAN, thus not allowing it out on the LAN.




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