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# 255713 25-Aug-2019 11:11
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Setting up new house build and trying to decide on the best switch to use. Will have about 5 or 6 POE devices and around 18 connections from the around the house to the switch. Prefer without a fan so is quiet and will be mounted in a rack with NAS, modem etc. Any suggestions? WiFi will connect via hardwired TP Link deco units.


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  # 2305630 25-Aug-2019 11:13
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Why not go full Ubiquiti UniFi with the switch, router and access points? Expensive but worth it.




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  # 2305632 25-Aug-2019 11:23
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you mention you will have 5-6 POE devices, so do you only require something with 6 POE ports on it or do you want to full switch to be POE?

 

Also what level of management do you require as that'll determine a managed / unmanaged switch recommendation


 
 
 
 


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  # 2305676 25-Aug-2019 11:41
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Picked up a Cisco 3560G 24 port PoE off Trademe for $60 and the thing is rock solid.
Only thing is it's quite deep and it has a fan so it might not fit in a shallow cabinet.
Most 24+ port PoE switches will have a fan, whereas 8 ports won't have one so that is something to consider.





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  # 2305682 25-Aug-2019 11:59
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Below 8 port PoE + buy a 16 or 24 port non PoE switch. You will also get hardware redundancy this way in case one of the switches fail, part of the network is still working.

https://www.amazon.com/YuanLey-Ethernet-Gigabit-1000Mbps-Unmanaged/dp/B07H8YN9C3/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2/131-2822851-9625059?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07H8YN9C3&pd_rd_r=c84fbfbd-226b-4a5c-9fad-1d6fa68e8074&pd_rd_w=Pjenm&pd_rd_wg=CBuJS&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=RNGTQM88H36610T4ZFCE&psc=1&refRID=RNGTQM88H36610T4ZFCE




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  # 2305687 25-Aug-2019 12:12
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You're going to pay a big $$ premium just to be using 8 of 24 POE ports. The best value / performance spot IMHO is the TP-Link POE switches which are also one of the cheapest 24 port POE switches you'll find in the market at just under $600

 

You also won't find a 24 port without a fan as it's a basic requirement to provide cooling.

 

IMHO you'll be best to look at one of the many options for a 24 port switch with only 12 POE ports, and if you're happy with unmanaged there is a good Cisco that you should be able to get for around $400

 

 

 

 


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  # 2305691 25-Aug-2019 12:14
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I have a HP ProCurve 1800-24G Fanless 24-Port Gigabit Switch, came with a lifetime warranty.   Still going like a trooper with not a single issue for nigh on 10 years now. 

 

Ignore products with fans... they might be ok but can be relatively noisy at an annoying frequency that likes to travel through walls. 

 

Don't go cheap brands... .my first switch was a chinese-brand cheapie with fan , and I had all sorts of problems. 


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  # 2305694 25-Aug-2019 12:20
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I was in a similar position a while ago, wanting PoE in a 24 port switch - in the end I dropped the PoE and kept with the PoE injector - I got an HP 1620-24G - no fan and it's been rock solid.  Has "web management" plus an RS-232 console port.

 

When I pull finger and organise to drop the power bricks on the devices that can use PoE I will most likely purchase an 8 port PoE switch and use that - anything above about that will require a fan.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2305695 25-Aug-2019 12:25
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Got a dell Powerconnect 5524P but too noisy. Looking around you can replace fans with quiet ones which is my next project. So if anyone knows where to get cheap fans let em know.





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  # 2305711 25-Aug-2019 14:03
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something like this would do it - no idea if it the fanless model or not.

 

 

 

https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=431196


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  # 2305713 25-Aug-2019 14:18
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bagheera:

 

something like this would do it - no idea if it the fanless model or not.

 

 

 

https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=431196

 

 

has a fan/s but only 36dB

 

i like how people keep replying with non PoE switches as options


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  # 2305716 25-Aug-2019 15:30
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Jase2985:

 

bagheera:

 

something like this would do it - no idea if it the fanless model or not.

 

 

 

https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=431196

 

 

has a fan/s but only 36dB

 

i like how people keep replying with non PoE switches as options

 

 

Yes, and also replying with switches that have fans. 

 

But yes, my mistake too, skimmed the op post and in my excitement to contribute i completely *#$%#$^# it up  :)

 

 


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  # 2305790 25-Aug-2019 18:02
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passively cooled 24 port switches do exist, though I have never used one

 

I doubt you could get a passive 24 port POE switch though.. and if you could I would recommend against it 


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  # 2305851 25-Aug-2019 19:57
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Mikrotik CRS328-24P

If you use RouterOS rather than SwitchOS the fans stay really quiet.... also switchOS kind of sucks IMO.

But yea as Steve says, $600-odd for something that will barely be used is a bit if a premium.

LevelOne, TP-Link, Edgecore, etc would be the brands to look at.

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  # 2305853 25-Aug-2019 20:21
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I assume a cheap and quiet non-enterprise grade solution and here we go (tested) ...

 

 

 

Fanless 24port rack-mountable 1Gb/s Switch: TL-SG1024DE https://www.tp-link.com/en/business-networking/easy-smart-switch/tl-sg1024de/

 

Addition for 8x 1Gb/s PoE https://www.alfa.com.tw/products_detail/76.htm plus 48V/3A DC power supply

 

 

 

Should go for ~280 NZ$ in total.





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  # 2306617 27-Aug-2019 09:58
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I'll be interested to see what you find as I was looking for the same thing last year, after outgrowing the 4x POE ports on my TPLink TL-SG108PE. I concluded that fanless is not generally an option above 8 or 16 ports as 802.3af compliant POE switches have to deliver up to 15W per port so around 360W. At these sort of power levels, most power supplies will dissipate enough heat that a fan is required so in order to use small enough heatsinks to physically fit it all into a 1U enclosure and meet the environmental specs - often full power at up to 40 or 50C ambient.

 

I ended up finding a bargain priced Zyxel 24 port POE switch on Trademe and took a punt as it had variable speed control on its fans. On minimum speed (my load is about 6x devices at a few Watts each so it tends to idle) the noise is still not ideal but quiet enough since my IT cupboard is not near bedrooms.

 

I considered changing out the fans for quieter ones, slowing them down or disabling (and adding my own temperature sensing) but never did it as it's a nuisance to take down a working setup and the switch monitors the tachos so I would also have to fake that which seemed like too much effort.


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