Tabletop Wifi with multiple SSID and VLANs

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#257215 20-Sep-2019 15:49

I live in a house which is solid concrete block. This means that we need multiple access points to get decent coverage / performance on wifi. I'm realistically looking at 4 APs to get decent coverage over 2 levels.

I'm currently running a hodge podge of a couple of cambium e400 APs, a Linksys Velop( which has pretty decent wifi performance) I got from my SP and some other junk I have accumulated over the years.

I'm also getting into IOT fairly heavily so want to segment my network into VLANs so I can isolate the IOT stuff from my main network and the internet. A lot of the IOT stuff doesn't play nicely with the Cambium access points, which seems to be fairly common.

The house has structured cabling everywhere but ceiling mounting is not really an option and wall mounting would look pretty bogus as well. For that reason I'd prefer something that is table top based if possible.

My core infrastructure is an Edgerouter lite and a TP Link smart switch which I'd prefer to leave in place. Budget is not a massive issue but would prefer something under NZD$200 per AP. I'm based overseas but most of the normal gear is available here.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

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#2321322 20-Sep-2019 16:02

Unifi UAP-AC-LITE

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#2321380 20-Sep-2019 16:14

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Unifi UAP-AC-LITE

Sure for wall or ceiling mounting but for table / desktop in a bedroom or living room?

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#2321381 20-Sep-2019 16:14

Maybe try the new Aruba Instant on

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/search?sf=aruba+instant+on

there is a table/desk mounted version
Has app and cloud based console

Same hardware as the more expensive Aruba offering

Can do Vlans ( I think up to 8, waiting on the docs from Aruba)

Haven't tested yet, have one Coming next week

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#2321422 20-Sep-2019 16:18

Handle9:

chevrolux:

Unifi UAP-AC-LITE

Sure for wall or ceiling mounting but for table / desktop in a bedroom or living room?

Yea absolutely. Quite a bit smaller, circumference wise, as the standard UAP's. You can turn off the LED's for the bedroom. And they are cheap!

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#2321425 20-Sep-2019 16:22

If there's structured cabling in place and ceiling mounting isn't an option I would look at the in wall Unifi models.

https://gowifi.co.nz/?keyword=unifi+in-wall&searchwordsugg=&option=com_virtuemart&virtuemart_category_id=0&page=shop.browse&view=category

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#2321426 20-Sep-2019 16:22

chevrolux:

Handle9:

chevrolux:

Unifi UAP-AC-LITE

Sure for wall or ceiling mounting but for table / desktop in a bedroom or living room?

Yea absolutely. Quite a bit smaller, circumference wise, as the standard UAP's. You can turn off the LED's for the bedroom. And they are cheap!

I'm not convinced that's going to get the WAF required.

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#2321427 20-Sep-2019 16:22

They have a new freestanding one on the early access beta unifi store if you know someone in the US who can order it for you, and deal with the limited channel selection on the US devices.

https://store.ui.com/collections/wireless/products/unifi-flexhd - needs a beta access unifi account to be able to see it however.

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#2321428 20-Sep-2019 16:22

What about the unifi in wall access points, they replace your wall plates, I think they are pricey but they are possibly the right tool for the job.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NAPUBI0426/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-IW-Dual-band-AC1200-300867Mb

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#2321435 20-Sep-2019 16:31

CYaBro:
If there's structured cabling in place and ceiling mounting isn't an option I would look at the in wall Unifi models.

https://gowifi.co.nz/?keyword=unifi+in-wall&searchwordsugg=&option=com_virtuemart&virtuemart_category_id=0&page=shop.browse&view=category

It's a rental so I'd prefer something that I don't have to remove when we leave. It's also UK style flush boxes and I'm not sure that they will fit.

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#2321436 20-Sep-2019 16:32

richms:
They have a new freestanding one on the early access beta unifi store if you know someone in the US who can order it for you, and deal with the limited channel selection on the US devices.

https://store.ui.com/collections/wireless/products/unifi-flexhd - needs a beta access unifi account to be able to see it however.

Hmm, might be worth waiting a few months if unifi are coming out with something table top.

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#2321437 20-Sep-2019 16:35

clinty: Maybe try the new Aruba Instant on

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/search?sf=aruba+instant+on

there is a table/desk mounted version
Has app and cloud based console

Same hardware as the more expensive Aruba offering

Can do Vlans ( I think up to 8, waiting on the docs from Aruba)

Haven't tested yet, have one Coming next week

Clint

Thanks they look really decent. I'd be interested in knowing how they perform and if they are relatively easy to setup VLAns. I'm fairly rudimentary in my networking skills so I like GUIs 😀

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#2321438 20-Sep-2019 16:37

Handle9:
CYaBro:

If there's structured cabling in place and ceiling mounting isn't an option I would look at the in wall Unifi models.

https://gowifi.co.nz/?keyword=unifi+in-wall&searchwordsugg=&option=com_virtuemart&virtuemart_category_id=0&page=shop.browse&view=category

It's a rental so I'd prefer something that I don't have to remove when we leave. It's also UK style flush boxes and I'm not sure that they will fit.

The older AC one will, its basically not really in wall but more on wall, only a small area with the RJ45 goes into the wall and the back plate has an assortment of screwholes for most wall box configs. My issue is that its only good for vertical AU boxes/clips in the wall and what savage puts plates in that way these days?

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#2321440 20-Sep-2019 16:42

richms:

They have a new freestanding one on the early access beta unifi store if you know someone in the US who can order it for you, and deal with the limited channel selection on the US devices.

https://store.ui.com/collections/wireless/products/unifi-flexhd - needs a beta access unifi account to be able to see it however.

That's really nice. And has the new 4x4 radios in them too.

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#2321441 20-Sep-2019 16:43

Handle9:
clinty: Maybe try the new Aruba Instant on

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/search?sf=aruba+instant+on

there is a table/desk mounted version
Has app and cloud based console

Same hardware as the more expensive Aruba offering

Can do Vlans ( I think up to 8, waiting on the docs from Aruba)

Haven't tested yet, have one Coming next week

Clint

Thanks they look really decent. I'd be interested in knowing how they perform and if they are relatively easy to setup VLAns. I'm fairly rudimentary in my networking skills so I like GUIs 😀

From the run through it is as simple as ticking a box and entering the VLAN number when setting up the SSID :)

Clint

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#2321474 20-Sep-2019 18:11

Hi is there any real reason to isolate IoT stuff from your main network, how many IoT devices do you have and what's your logic for separating them, just asking as a network engineer as to your reason.

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