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# 258506 7-Oct-2019 17:46
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I'm on the 100/20 plan on Orcon and using the router that it came with. Have just upgraded for the Gigantic Fibre plan so waiting for that to set up.

That being said, I'm experiencing dead spots around the house (just 100 sqm) and thinking that the router that it comes with is pretty standard so thinking of improving it. I use a TP-Link powerline ethernet adapter in my room which connects to my comp and the modem is on the other side of the house with multiple walls in between. Not brick walls tho. I get about 65mbps down on LAN and on WiFi about 30mps. Understandably I won't get the max 100 but was wondering if other solutions will help.

Currently contemplating on either getting the TP-Link Archer AX6000 or Ubiquiti AMPLIFI AFi-HD Mesh Wi-Fi System after I get on Gigantic.

Any recommendations on what I should do?

 

 

 

Not sure if this matters but current setup:

 

 

 

Ryzen 3600 

 

Gigabyte x570 Elite Wi-Fi


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  # 2332105 7-Oct-2019 17:49
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I've had the Amplifi.  

 

Don't get the Amplifi.  




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  # 2332109 7-Oct-2019 18:28
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Any reason for this?


 
 
 
 


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  # 2332110 7-Oct-2019 18:28
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If it were me instead of mesh go for 2 or 3 Unifi Waps and use cabled backhaul, I know you are going to say running cables is not possible but in all the years I've been doing cabling and networks I've rarely found a situation where a bit of lateral thinking and sweat have not sorted it.

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  # 2332113 7-Oct-2019 18:35
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Understandable.

 

 

 

Just thinking of running cables already makes me sweat lol. I don't think I can do under the house so it'll have to be through the ceiling. Not an electrician either unless you're talking about just taking a long as ethernet cable in to my room from the ceiling lol.


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  # 2332114 7-Oct-2019 18:36
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dont get the TP-Link Archer AX6000. overpriced POS like any of those gaming/spider type routers.

 

why not look at the netgear rbk50 system or similar?




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  # 2332117 7-Oct-2019 18:40
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Do you have experience with netgear rbk50? What are the advantages if you don't mind?

 

 

 

I was looking at price and the functions it provides as well.

 

 

 

I guess not so important but the TP-Link has future proofing for WiFi 6 as well.


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  # 2332118 7-Oct-2019 18:41
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The waps typically go on the ceiling so you just need to sort dropping them to the router.

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  # 2332128 7-Oct-2019 18:55
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cyril7: If it were me instead of mesh go for 2 or 3 Unifi Waps and use cabled backhaul, I know you are going to say running cables is not possible but in all the years I've been doing cabling and networks I've rarely found a situation where a bit of lateral thinking and sweat have not sorted it.

Cyril

 

This would be my first option. If it's a rental or really hard to cable then a mesh system would be next. Spider style gaming routers would be number 45324 on my list. They are vapour ware.

 

Lots of choices there: Ubiquiti Amplifi, Netgear Orbi, Linksys Velop, TP-Link Deco, Google Wifi etc pick the one with features and price you like.

 

Regardless of what you do you won't get Gigabit over wifi but you can comfortably get 100-200mbps with mesh systems, providing you have the right wifi supported on your devices.


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  # 2332136 7-Oct-2019 19:03
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What Orcon router have you got? I had the old NF4V and it was useless for WiFi, never went over 60 even say next to the thing as it was only 2.4ghz wireless N. I've put in a cheap pair of tenda mesh nodes off Ali express and it's hugely improved my wifi, I get the full 200 down now. Gigabit will be the real test on how good they are.

Updating the main router worked well though. I've moved to stuff and the asus rt-ac58u they sent out is currently set up and working on my Orcon connection. I did a little bit of playing when I set it up as I was connected to it anyway and it was a very big improvement over the NF4V.



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  # 2332139 7-Oct-2019 19:05
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You guys are right, definitely not hoping for crazy mad speeds over Wifi. Nothing beats the cable I guess but at least it will solve my dead spot issue around the house.

 

 

 

Weird thing is as I have powerline adapters, whenever I go from my room and towards the other end of the house (where the router is), the wifi drops and it would try to connect to the adapter at the other end of the house, the drop is significant and takes awhile to come back on WiFi which is annoying. Nothing can be done from what I've searched. I even purchased a xiaomi wifi extender right in the middle of the hallway but no help.




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  # 2332140 7-Oct-2019 19:08
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everettpsycho: What Orcon router have you got? I had the old NF4V and it was useless for WiFi, never went over 60 even say next to the thing as it was only 2.4ghz wireless N. I've put in a cheap pair of tenda mesh nodes off Ali express and it's hugely improved my wifi, I get the full 200 down now. Gigabit will be the real test on how good they are.

Updating the main router worked well though. I've moved to stuff and the asus rt-ac58u they sent out is currently set up and working on my Orcon connection. I did a little bit of playing when I set it up as I was connected to it anyway and it was a very big improvement over the NF4V.

 

 

 

What kind of settings did you fiddle with? Yeah its the old NF4V, I'm suspecting this is the issue as well however another issue is also the powerline adapter dropping wifi whenever I'm going from one to the other.


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  # 2332148 7-Oct-2019 19:19
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everettpsycho: What Orcon router have you got? I had the old NF4V and it was useless for WiFi, never went over 60 even say next to the thing as it was only 2.4ghz wireless N. I've put in a cheap pair of tenda mesh nodes off Ali express and it's hugely improved my wifi, I get the full 200 down now. Gigabit will be the real test on how good they are.

Updating the main router worked well though. I've moved to stuff and the asus rt-ac58u they sent out is currently set up and working on my Orcon connection. I did a little bit of playing when I set it up as I was connected to it anyway and it was a very big improvement over the NF4V.


 


What kind of settings did you fiddle with? Yeah its the old NF4V, I'm suspecting this is the issue as well however another issue is also the powerline adapter dropping wifi whenever I'm going from one to the other.



I haven't needed to touch any settings really. On the orcon router I have just disabled the WiFi so the mesh routers can get on with its job. The Asus stuff router pretty much worked as soon as I plugged it in. Again I've shut off the WiFi but the router is an ac1200 with 5ghz so while setting it up I did some tests to check the speed before sitting the WiFi off.

The NF4V will be your bottleneck on the wifi speed front and I'd definitely get something to take over the WiFi. Maybe ask Orcon to upgrade your router when they activate your gigabit and see if that helps before spending much more, I don't think they ever issued the NF4V to gigabit customers. Reliable as the router was once you go past a 100Mb connection the WiFi bottleneck on it really holds you back.

Mesh wise it's killed my dead spots, we don't live in a big house but the wiring means the routers miles away from the living room to be able to utilize all our Ethernet ports. Moving between the nodes mostly works, sometimes it will hold on to downstairs while I'm upstairs but it's no big loss. For the $180 it cost me I'm happy with it.

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  # 2332190 7-Oct-2019 20:18
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I use AMPLIFI in my house, but rather than using one router and two mesh points I opted to buy two HD routers. They are connected to each by Ethernet backhaul. This gives me the advantage of perfect wifi coverage across the house (and yard) and Ethernet points in the two rooms I need them for media distribution (living room and games room). if you can’t run Ethernet they can also be configured using wireless backhaul.

I didn’t need the advanced routing capabilities of a USG plus Unifi WAP so decided to go this route and I’m glad I did. Couldn’t be happier.



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  # 2332214 7-Oct-2019 20:38
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everettpsycho: 

 

I haven't needed to touch any settings really. On the orcon router I have just disabled the WiFi so the mesh routers can get on with its job. The Asus stuff router pretty much worked as soon as I plugged it in. Again I've shut off the WiFi but the router is an ac1200 with 5ghz so while setting it up I did some tests to check the speed before sitting the WiFi off.

The NF4V will be your bottleneck on the wifi speed front and I'd definitely get something to take over the WiFi. Maybe ask Orcon to upgrade your router when they activate your gigabit and see if that helps before spending much more, I don't think they ever issued the NF4V to gigabit customers. Reliable as the router was once you go past a 100Mb connection the WiFi bottleneck on it really holds you back.

Mesh wise it's killed my dead spots, we don't live in a big house but the wiring means the routers miles away from the living room to be able to utilize all our Ethernet ports. Moving between the nodes mostly works, sometimes it will hold on to downstairs while I'm upstairs but it's no big loss. For the $180 it cost me I'm happy with it.

 

 

 

Yeah we're definitely in the same situation.

 

 

 

I'm thinking if I disabled my Wifi on the router, will the powerline adapter's wifi still work?




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  # 2332215 7-Oct-2019 20:39
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Senecio: I use AMPLIFI in my house, but rather than using one router and two mesh points I opted to buy two HD routers. They are connected to each by Ethernet backhaul. This gives me the advantage of perfect wifi coverage across the house (and yard) and Ethernet points in the two rooms I need them for media distribution (living room and games room). if you can’t run Ethernet they can also be configured using wireless backhaul.

I didn’t need the advanced routing capabilities of a USG plus Unifi WAP so decided to go this route and I’m glad I did. Couldn’t be happier.

 

 

 

Ah yes, I'm trying not to run Ethernet cables throughout the house.


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