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normanc

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#261823 16-Dec-2019 22:13
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Apologies for a post that may be replicated elsewhere, but I can't find the information I need. Or I'm just not understanding it all.

 

I am self taught in networking, so I have SOME basics, but I'm not an expert by ANY stretch.

 

So, because i've been switched over to VOIP by Vodafone I am trying to find a way to use the HG659 router in my network so it can receive VOIP calls. 

 

I have an Edgerouter SPF X as my main router. It's been working just fine with the WAN cable from my cable modem attached to ETH0.

 

eth0.10 VLAN

 

(note in all the following that I may have misconfigurations. I just don't know.)

 

I have found this setup:

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=198107&page_no=3

 

But it does not work.

 

I have tried to follow the instructions here to turn on bridge mode:

 

http://help.vodafone.co.nz/app/answers/detail/a_id/27703

 

(Including turning off the VLAN because of a comment I found elsewhere)

 

 Because my understanding is that this would let me have the VF router be dumb and my Edgerouter handle everything. Except the VOIP.

 

But when I turn on bridge mode (according to the above instructions) the Internet light turns off. 

 

(I had an incredibly frustrating conversation with a Vodafon "ninja" who insisted that bridge mode is not for this. It DOES disable the internet and is not what I want. This goes against everything I've been seeing on these forums or elsewhere. I believe I'm correct that I want bridge mode??)

 

And certainly the Edgerouter can't see anything useful.

 

I have extra questions as well that are not answered clearly anywhere I've been able to find.

 

Which ports get connected to where.

 

I assume the Cable Modem (WAN) > HG659 (WAN) ports is the first connection.

 

But then which ports do I connect the Edgerouter? Do I connect the WAN port (currently eth0) to a HG659 ethernet port. Or do I reconfigure the eth0 to a standard ethernet port? Assuming I can, and haven't misunderstood something.

 

Thank you for any help you can provide. This is driving me crazy!

 

 


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  #2376694 17-Dec-2019 06:50
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Hi, firstly you do not need bridge mode, this is sure to not work. Just follow Froobs notes, they should be all good to go, key thing you want to acheive is:

 

  • 1. Remove the vlan tag on the Wan (internet_ethernet) port
  • 2. Ensure the WAN interface is in IPoE mode (aka DHCP client).
  • 3. Ensure the LAN subnet of the 659 is not the same as the LAN subnet of your Edge router, if it is change one of them, either does not matter.

Now connect the WAN interface of the 659 to the LAN of the Edgerouter, the 659 WAN interface should pick up a DHCP lease from the EdgeRouter and add a default route out that interface, at that time the VOIP ATA will see traffic and all good to go. Note the VOIP ATA software in the 659 is bound to the WAN interface, hence that is the only interface that will work.

 

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  #2376696 17-Dec-2019 07:06
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Thank you.

One question, to reveal my ignorance, when you say subnet, you mean the 255.255.255.0 we typically see? Under the LAN side static IP address?

So change it to something like 255.255.200.0

 
 
 
 


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  #2376698 17-Dec-2019 07:21
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Hi, nope dont do that, the subnet mask can remain as 255.255.255.0 (/24), but rather if the 659's subnet is 192.168.1.x then the Edge router must be something else, like 192.168.5.x

 

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  #2376710 17-Dec-2019 07:37
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cyril7:

 

Hi, firstly you do not need bridge mode, this is sure to not work. Just follow Froobs notes, they should be all good to go, key thing you want to acheive is:

 

  • 1. Remove the vlan tag on the Wan (internet_ethernet) port
  • 2. Ensure the WAN interface is in IPoE mode (aka DHCP client).

 

The WAN interface being from the HG659 Admin interface:

 

Internet > Internet Settings> Internet_Ethernet

 

But I can't see anything in there IPoE mode, or DHCP client.

 

There's a IP Information section with title of:

 

IP Protocol Version      [IPv4+IPv6]

 

IPv4 Addressing Type   [DHCP]

 

Static DNS                 [ ]

 

IPv6 addressing type [DHCP]

 

==============

 

Is that the section?

 

 

 

cyril7:

 

  • 3. Ensure the LAN subnet of the 659 is not the same as the LAN subnet of your Edge router, if it is change one of them, either does not matter.

 

SO this is much harder. At the moment, I have the HG659 set up with a static IP address that is in my range of addresses being handed out by my DHCP server. eg 192.168.98.XX

 

And the IP address this router is using is excluded from the addresses being handed out by the DHCP server.

 

IS this OK?

 

But I can't change the subnet mask. I can't change the third 255 to anything. It's grayed out.

 

And whatever I change the 0 to, it says this isn't a valid sub net number. I looked up valid subnet numbers and it seems there are very few options.

 

And the first one reduces the subnet size to 128 addresses.

 

I'm clearly not understanding something here.

 

Thank you for your help. It's much appreciated, even as it reveals my ignorance as I look over this networking cliff...

 

 


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  #2376712 17-Dec-2019 07:39
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cyril7:

 

Hi, nope dont do that, the subnet mask can remain as 255.255.255.0 (/24), but rather if the 659's subnet is 192.168.1.x then the Edge router must be something else, like 192.168.5.x

 

Cyril

 

 

Ah. So in the future to do any admin, I will have to set a static IP on one of my computers to connect to the router?

 

Less convenient than I hoped, but all good.

 

Thanks again


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  #2376722 17-Dec-2019 08:00
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SUCCESS!

 

Thank you!

 

So yes looks like the WAN DHCP settings are the ones I highlit above.

 

I left them as is. 

 

And indeed, I did change the static IP address of the router to an address that was NOT in the same subnet as my Edgerouter.

 

And of course turned off the VLAN.

 

Plugged my network into the WAN port of the router, and held my breath.

 

And a minute or so later, all the lights lit up. Internet, and VOIP being the critical ones.

 

Thanks so much for the extra details.

 

And reasons behind it. My heart can go on! As it were.

 

 

 

 


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  #2376729 17-Dec-2019 08:31
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Hi, glad you got it sorted.

 

Cyril


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