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Topic # 26309 17-Sep-2008 23:00
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I have brought my parents into the wonderful world of wifi with an old(ish) Thomson SpeedTouch 585v6 that I was not using (getting it set up for NZ ADSL was an absolute nightmare - after much messing about with telnet, its currently running German-sourced firmware!).

But as something of an idle (it is after all actually running) and probably obvious query, what is the difference between "DSL" and "Internet"?

The router has a variety of LEDs on it, including one labelled DSL and one labelled Internet. I had always assumed that Internet was a subset of DSL (i.e. DSL means you're connected to the exchange, Internet means you're actually sending/receiving data).

However, looking at the router's own stats (i.e. logging into it with a browser), it displays a significantly higher data transfer for "Internet" than "DSL":

[And here I was intending to insert a screen capture of the d@mn statistics, but cannot figure out how to do this... not a good sign.]

In any event, be assured that I have readouts for both DSL and Internet, both have a "data transferred" figure, and the Internet figure is much higher than the DSL figure, and yes I've checked that they are measured in the same units etc. etc.

Any enlightenment appreciated.

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  Reply # 166005 21-Sep-2008 13:03
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The Internet is most definately related to whether or not you are authenticated with the ISP, this is a pretty common feature on a lot of domestic routers. The difference in transfers is most likely fooling you a little, the DSL statistics will simply be reporting the current transfer RATE of the DSL interface, whereas the Internet statistics will probably be reporting the amount of TRAFFIC that has actually been sent accross them since the Router started running.

Of course it is also possible that DSL may be reporting "Possible/Attainable" speeds in bytes/Kbytes etc and that Internet is reporting "Actual/Attained" speeds in bytes/Kbytes, this can be extremely confusing if you can't find any documentation to say which is true.

I would suggest though that if the Internet figures continually go up the longer the router is running, and that the DSL figures remain relatively static that the first option is true, if the internet figures don't change too much but go both down as well as up then the second option is true.

The one thing I can say with relative certainty is that the DSL statistics will be directly related to either attainable or attained DSL Synchronization speed and that Internet statistics will be directly related to either attained Line speed OR traffic actually processed.


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  Reply # 166868 24-Sep-2008 20:03
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Thanks for your reply.
However, both figures appear to relate just to the actual data transferred, not speed (there is a separate figure for that). In a eureka moment, I have just discovered the "insert image" button (how did I miss that before!?) - here are some screen captures. The last line of each refers to a "data transferred" figure:
DSL screen capture
Internet screen caapture

Perhaps it is due to the different "uptimes"?
But why would the internet have a greater uptime than the DSL? As I understand it, it is not possible to connect to the internet other than by DSL?


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  Reply # 166933 25-Sep-2008 07:17
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Sorry but no images?

Try uploading to photobucket image hosting and linking from there?


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  Reply # 167158 25-Sep-2008 19:58
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Grr, sorry, problems with Picasa not doing what it should.
This time fingers crossed:


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