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#265341 17-Jan-2020 09:58
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Hi All,

 

I put some effort in creating this diagram to explain my tests.

 

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What :

 

 - Orcon Gigabit Connection

 

 - Orcon Supplied NF18 Modem, default settings.

 

Just moved into New Rental Property this Monday 13/01/2020 (but internet was connected since Friday 10 Jan). My Master Bedroom does not get any Wifi signal, currently settled in Bedroom 1 (which again has weak signal). Cannot move to Bedroom 2 (currently used as yoga / lounge area / clothes iron. (cannot use this as bedroom as it does not have any wardrobe).

 

Divided the Bedroom 2 into two parts :

 

1. where i get better signal is where by wardrobe is

 

2. where my Bed is, no signal.

 

Is there a way to tweak the Router to get better range? or get some range extenders or something?

 

Any help appreciated... Thanks in advance.

 

 - David





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  #2400463 17-Jan-2020 10:06
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Powerline network and a small wireless access point.


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  #2400465 17-Jan-2020 10:07
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option 1,

 

 

 

download android app like wifi man, see if your 2.4 wif is on same channel as neighbours, if so move it to another channel in router config page.

 

 

 

option 2,

 

 

 

get a mesh router setup like Netgear Orbi, Linksys Velop.

 

 

 

 





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  #2400466 17-Jan-2020 10:07
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timmmay:

 

Powerline network and a small wireless access point.

 

 

 

 

Eww, nobody wants 2 ssid's.





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  #2400473 17-Jan-2020 10:16
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Forgot to mention, i also tried to relocate the router to Bedroom 3 (yellow mark), but didnt make any difference in signal / speed.





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  #2400479 17-Jan-2020 10:24
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sdavisnz:

 

option 2,

 

get a mesh router setup like Netgear Orbi, Linksys Velop.

 

 

 

 

That's a pricey piece of equipment there...

 

i would be happy on 50-100 Mbps over wifi either on 2.4 or 5 G.





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  #2400523 17-Jan-2020 10:27
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Do it right, do it once.

I assume there will be a good second hand market coming soon with wifi6 taking off this year.




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  #2400524 17-Jan-2020 10:33
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sdavisnz:

 

Eww, nobody wants 2 ssid's.

 

 

We have one for 2.4GHz and one for 5GHz, works fine. The phone finds the strongest signal, or you can switch.


 
 
 
 




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  #2400531 17-Jan-2020 10:46
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timmmay:

 

sdavisnz:

 

Eww, nobody wants 2 ssid's.

 

 

We have one for 2.4GHz and one for 5GHz, works fine. The phone finds the strongest signal, or you can switch.

 

 

Well, i do need both Bands, as i have an old laptop & PS4 which only have 2.4GHz. Currently ps4 is hooked-up via LAN in living room, but eventually will be moved to Bedroom i'm currently in.





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  #2400591 17-Jan-2020 11:24
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Orcon offers Google Wifi Mesh for rental or purchase. From memory the rental is $15 per month but I maybe wrong. I use Google Wifi in my home which is a very difficult beast for coverage. The Google system has given me excellent coverage though out our home. 





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  #2400607 17-Jan-2020 11:52
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MikeB4:

 

Orcon offers Google Wifi Mesh for rental or purchase. From memory the rental is $15 per month but I maybe wrong. I use Google Wifi in my home which is a very difficult beast for coverage. The Google system has given me excellent coverage though out our home. 

 

 

Yes, i did see them. they were available for $5 a month on rental along with gig (maybe they can still honor that deal as i am just 1 week in).

 

But, i wasn't sure if google Wifi is gonna solve my problem or not.





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  #2400625 17-Jan-2020 12:36
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I have a very difficult home to get wifi or wired ethernet around. My health means I am unable to do the hard yards putting in ethernet cabling. All other Wifi systems I have tried in the past have never reached all the rooms in the home including rooms right beside each other. One will get Wifi the other wont. Since buying a Google Wifi system from Orcon with three nodes and router I get good coverage everywhere with speeds over 120mbps to 300mbps+. 

 

I know some on Geekzone don't like Mesh systems but I have found this to be an excellent solution here . I have also recommended it to friends and family and they have found the same results.





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  #2400693 17-Jan-2020 13:13
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KillerHulk:

 

Forgot to mention, i also tried to relocate the router to Bedroom 3 (yellow mark), but didnt make any difference in signal / speed.

 

 

How did you "relocate" the router? Is their structured cabling?

 

And for those suggest Google WiFi / mesh solutions one thing to remember is the major failing and limitation of mesh wireless networks is that there *has* to be coverage where the client radios go.

 

If there is no coverage in room 3 from the router being moved to room 2 then a mesh solution isn't necessarily going to be an answer because there is nowhere appropriate in that diagram to place a mesh radio where it could backhaul to the main ONT location and also provide wireless coverage to room 3.

 

If there is structured cabling then a standalone AP plugged into the wall outlet in room 3 is the most obvious answer.

 

 




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  #2400695 17-Jan-2020 13:18
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sbiddle:

 

KillerHulk:

 

Forgot to mention, i also tried to relocate the router to Bedroom 3 (yellow mark), but didnt make any difference in signal / speed.

 

 

How did you "relocate" the router? Is their structured cabling?

 

 

just ran a Cat 6 cable from ONT.

 

Should have written "moved" the Router rather than "relocate", bad wording on my part.





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  #2400743 17-Jan-2020 13:19
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Can confirm, No Structure Cabling.





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  #2400778 17-Jan-2020 14:50
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If I'm reading this right, you do get a signal in bedroom 2 and the hallway (I think it is a hallway on the diagram?) from the current router location, and are trying to get a signal in bedroom 1? It also sounds like you have a long ethernet cable and can physically move the router, at least for experimentation.

 

I'd would try temporarily sticking the router either in the hallway or bedroom 2. That should give you a signal in bedroom 1 (unless you have a faraday cage in the walls) but worth confirming. You will need to try somewhere near a powerpoint. If that works, I'd suggest the Google Wifi option from Orcon (or equivalent mesh solution if you're happy to buy - variants do pop up on GZ) with the base unit permanently by the ONT and a slave/child unit in the hallway or bedroom 2. The slave/child unit will sort of act like a wifi repeater, without all the downsides of actual wifi repeaters. 


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