Chorus SFP ONT

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#269712 3-Apr-2020 19:39

When searching through the internet I saw that chorus were trialling SFP onts for buisnesses a while back...

1. I was wondering if it is finally out or not... And if it was available to household customers...

2. If they are not giving them out to households can we figure out what kind of SFP Transceivers they are using and buy them ourselves???

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#2454050 3-Apr-2020 19:42

1. Yes, for BS3/4 connections so not home unless you really wanna pay for it!

2. No.

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#2454051 3-Apr-2020 19:44

2. Yes you could probably buy one, but no you can't connect it to the Chorus network.

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#2454105 3-Apr-2020 22:29

Trust me, if there was a way to get an SFP termination that wasn't BS3, we'd be discussing it by now. There's a few of us who like to do daft stuff for a giggle around here, and having that nasty ONT on the wall isn't as fun as having an SFP in my Mikrotik.

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#2454111 3-Apr-2020 22:52

There are issues with SFP transceivers used on the Chorus network IIRC. One main one is heat.

Unless if you've got a cooled server room (which if you did, you'll likely be both a business and on a BS3/4 connection anyway) you wouldn't want one of these SFP connectors from a reliability standpoint anyway. Just looking at how hot it can get where my router is + how hot my router does get (and this would only get worse with one of these) it'll cook the SFP in a matter of moments.

You're lucky that Chorus have the ONT's in passthrough mode + you're able to use any router you desire. On many providers in the US as an example you're not as lucky and often have to use an ONT along with your providers router.

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#2454168 4-Apr-2020 08:53

As Michael said heat is an issue for the SPF modules.

But chorus is looking at the next generation ONT's from nokia and some of them did have SPF ports. what that means for users and using their own routers with spf ports i dont know.

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#2454177 4-Apr-2020 09:18

I just dont know why it would matter? What's wrong with built-in RJ45 connector?

You can still do 10Gbps on it, so zero benefit to moving to a SFPs... you're just adding cost.

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#2456190 6-Apr-2020 21:23

chevrolux:

I just dont know why it would matter? What's wrong with built-in RJ45 connector?

You can still do 10Gbps on it, so zero benefit to moving to a SFPs... you're just adding cost.

One less thing to get power to from your UPS. If it's in a different location to your rack (likely if the previous owner got UFB installed) that can be a bit of a challenge.

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#2456193 6-Apr-2020 21:33

Tracer:

One less thing to get power to from your UPS. If it's in a different location to your rack (likely if the previous owner got UFB installed) that can be a bit of a challenge.

so this is actually an issue for me.

in my flat, the previous owner for whatever reason managed to get the ONT installed without a powerpoint.

Leaves me with a few options.

Run a lead into the kitchen - works well, but partner does have a tendency to accidentally knock it out when switching to the toaster etc.
Run a lead to the closest powerpoint, Across a stairwell (I refuse to do this, it's just asking for the partner to trip over it and fall down the stairs.)
Run a lead over the ledge into the laundry (again, not really the safest)

at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.

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#2456312 7-Apr-2020 09:57

hio77:

...at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.

Wait what? New ONT can be powered over PoE? That's the G-140WC? I've not heard about that....passive or 802.3af? Or are you talking about using some sort of janky 12v PoE injector/power tap setup?

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#2456322 7-Apr-2020 10:13

wratterus:

hio77:

...at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.

Wait what? New ONT can be powered over PoE? That's the G-140WC? I've not heard about that....passive or 802.3af? Or are you talking about using some sort of janky 12v PoE injector/power tap setup?

Might be at not af, purely for the extra power budget. but yes, I'm talking about doing a slightly jank setup to solve for a problem. It doesnt support it out of the box at all.

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#2456328 7-Apr-2020 10:14

Ah you got me all excited!