Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




1 post

Wannabe Geek


#269712 3-Apr-2020 19:39
Send private message quote this post

When searching through the internet I saw that chorus were trialling SFP onts for buisnesses a while back...

1. I was wondering if it is finally out or not... And if it was available to household customers...

2. If they are not giving them out to households can we figure out what kind of SFP Transceivers they are using and buy them ourselves???

Create new topic
'That VDSL Cat'
12313 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  #2454050 3-Apr-2020 19:42
Send private message quote this post

1. Yes, for BS3/4 connections so not home unless you really wanna pay for it!

 

2. No.





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.

 


5962 posts

Uber Geek


  #2454051 3-Apr-2020 19:44
Send private message quote this post

2. Yes you could probably buy one, but no you can't connect it to the Chorus network.


 
 
 
 


963 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2454105 3-Apr-2020 22:29
Send private message quote this post

Trust me, if there was a way to get an SFP termination that wasn't BS3, we'd be discussing it by now. There's a few of us who like to do daft stuff for a giggle around here, and having that nasty ONT on the wall isn't as fun as having an SFP in my Mikrotik.





Anything I say is the ramblings of an ill informed, opinionated so-and-so, and not representative of any of my past, present or future employers, and is also probably best disregarded.


/dev/null
9377 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2454111 3-Apr-2020 22:52
Send private message quote this post

There are issues with SFP transceivers used on the Chorus network IIRC. One main one is heat.

 

Unless if you've got a cooled server room (which if you did, you'll likely be both a business and on a BS3/4 connection anyway) you wouldn't want one of these SFP connectors from a reliability standpoint anyway. Just looking at how hot it can get where my router is + how hot my router does get (and this would only get worse with one of these) it'll cook the SFP in a matter of moments.

 

You're lucky that Chorus have the ONT's in passthrough mode + you're able to use any router you desire. On many providers in the US as an example you're not as lucky and often have to use an ONT along with your providers router.





9711 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2454168 4-Apr-2020 08:53
Send private message quote this post

As Michael said heat is an issue for the SPF modules.

 

But chorus is looking at the next generation ONT's from nokia and some of them did have SPF ports. what that means for users and using their own routers with spf ports i dont know.


4542 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #2454177 4-Apr-2020 09:18
Send private message quote this post

I just dont know why it would matter? What's wrong with built-in RJ45 connector?

 

You can still do 10Gbps on it, so zero benefit to moving to a SFPs... you're just adding cost.


311 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2456190 6-Apr-2020 21:23
Send private message quote this post

chevrolux:

 

I just dont know why it would matter? What's wrong with built-in RJ45 connector?

 

You can still do 10Gbps on it, so zero benefit to moving to a SFPs... you're just adding cost.

 

 

One less thing to get power to from your UPS. If it's in a different location to your rack (likely if the previous owner got UFB installed) that can be a bit of a challenge.


 
 
 
 


'That VDSL Cat'
12313 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  #2456193 6-Apr-2020 21:33
Send private message quote this post

Tracer:

 

One less thing to get power to from your UPS. If it's in a different location to your rack (likely if the previous owner got UFB installed) that can be a bit of a challenge.

 

 

so this is actually an issue for me.

 

in my flat, the previous owner for whatever reason managed to get the ONT installed without a powerpoint.

 

Leaves me with a few options.

 

     

  1. Run a lead into the kitchen - works well, but partner does have a tendency to accidentally knock it out when switching to the toaster etc.
  2. Run a lead to the closest powerpoint, Across a stairwell (I refuse to do this, it's just asking for the partner to trip over it and fall down the stairs.)
  3. Run a lead over the ledge into the laundry (again, not really the safest)

 

 

 

at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.

 


951 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2456312 7-Apr-2020 09:57
Send private message quote this post

hio77:

 

...at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.

 

 

Wait what? New ONT can be powered over PoE? That's the G-140WC? I've not heard about that....passive or 802.3af? Or are you talking about using some sort of janky 12v PoE injector/power tap setup?


'That VDSL Cat'
12313 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  #2456322 7-Apr-2020 10:13
Send private message quote this post

wratterus:

 

hio77:

 

...at some stage i'll get it swapped over to a Gen 3 ONT (was going to happen the week of lockdown, but obviously called off that), at that point i'll power it over gbit PoE. until it's moved to a realistic location.

 

 

Wait what? New ONT can be powered over PoE? That's the G-140WC? I've not heard about that....passive or 802.3af? Or are you talking about using some sort of janky 12v PoE injector/power tap setup?

 

 

Might be at not af, purely for the extra power budget. but yes, I'm talking about doing a slightly jank setup to solve for a problem. It doesnt support it out of the box at all.





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.

 


951 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2456328 7-Apr-2020 10:14
Send private message quote this post

Ah you got me all excited!


Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Menulog change colours as parent company merges with Dutch food delivery service
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:53


Techweek2020 goes digital to make it easier for Kiwis to connect and learn
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:48


Catalyst Cloud launches new Solutions Hub to support their kiwi Partners and Customers
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:44


Microsoft to help New Zealand job seekers acquire new digital skills needed for the COVID-19 economy
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:41


Hewlett Packard Enterprise introduces new HPE GreenLake cloud services
Posted 24-Jun-2020 08:07


New cloud data protection services from Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:58


Hewlett Packard Enterprise unveils HPE Ezmeral, new software portfolio and brand
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:10


Apple reveals new developer technologies to foster the next generation of apps
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:30


Poly introduces solutions for Microsoft Teams Rooms
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:14


Lenovo launches new ThinkPad P Series mobile workstations
Posted 23-Jun-2020 09:17


Lenovo brings Linux certification to ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation portfolio
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:56


Apple introduces new features for iPhone iOS14 and iPadOS 14
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:28


Apple announces Mac transition to Apple silicon
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:18


OPPO A72 a top mid-tier smartphone
Posted 19-Jun-2020 18:02


D-Link A/NZ launches new smart AX1500 Wi-Fi 6 Router
Posted 19-Jun-2020 15:03



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.