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#272334 20-Jun-2020 11:20
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I assume there is no issue mixing different Unifi APs on the same network (e.g UAP-AC-Lite and UAP-AC-LR)?

 

 





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  #2508627 20-Jun-2020 11:23
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Nope. Just be aware that depending on what models you are mixing that models going EOL next year (if you are using these) will limit you and you will no longer be able to upgrade the controller from that point.

 

 




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  #2508629 20-Jun-2020 11:26
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Roaming seems sketchy between different ones. I have no end of problems if I have the 2.4APs doing the same SSID that I have on the AC-Pros with the IOT stuff. If they are all on the old 2.4GHz ones then its fine. Now they do 8 SSIDs per radio I can retire the other ones but that is effort to arrange so I am just leaving it as is for now till I have to with them going end of support.





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  #2508682 20-Jun-2020 12:29
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sbiddle:

Nope. Just be aware that depending on what models you are mixing that models going EOL next year (if you are using these) will limit you and you will no longer be able to upgrade the controller from that point.


 



Which ones are going EOL? Just the old 2.4Ghz ones (with green light)?



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  #2508696 20-Jun-2020 13:19
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List of EOL models here: https://community.ui.com/questions/Announcement-EOL-for-some-UniFi-AP-models/65487283-ce9d-49f4-85b9-b6aa54659ef7

 

There is otherwise no issues mixing UniFi access points.





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  #2508745 20-Jun-2020 14:40
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michaelmurfy:

 

List of EOL models here: https://community.ui.com/questions/Announcement-EOL-for-some-UniFi-AP-models/65487283-ce9d-49f4-85b9-b6aa54659ef7

 

There is otherwise no issues mixing UniFi access points.

 

 

Thanks @michaelmurfy yeah I found that after I asked - should have looked first.

 

The inclusion of those two AC models is strange.


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  #2508800 20-Jun-2020 15:28
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Paul1977:

 

michaelmurfy:

 

List of EOL models here: https://community.ui.com/questions/Announcement-EOL-for-some-UniFi-AP-models/65487283-ce9d-49f4-85b9-b6aa54659ef7

 

There is otherwise no issues mixing UniFi access points.

 

 

Thanks @michaelmurfy yeah I found that after I asked - should have looked first.

 

The inclusion of those two AC models is strange.

 

 

Those AC models used a different chipset.

 

UBNT's way of dealing with EOL products is pretty crap though, but that's what goes with the pricepoint.

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2509038 21-Jun-2020 09:10
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So, once eol if the AP's retain their configuration they will continue to function?

Or does losing support in the controller mean they will no longer work per the below?


Devices will lose controller support in a controller version that is released AFTER the EOL date, and it will be clearly announced in release notes. In other words, it should be clear to the user before the upgrade happens, that the upgrade will terminate support.

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  #2509043 21-Jun-2020 09:17
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You just cant update the controller to one that doesnt support them. So you are stuck with running 2 controllers if you want to get new hardware that the old controller doesnt support. That also means each controller will report ones on the other controller as rogue APs if you use the same SSID across them and you will have no roaming at all between the 2 sets of APs.





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  #2509566 22-Jun-2020 11:21
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michaelmurfy:

 

List of EOL models here: https://community.ui.com/questions/Announcement-EOL-for-some-UniFi-AP-models/65487283-ce9d-49f4-85b9-b6aa54659ef7

 

There is otherwise no issues mixing UniFi access points.

 

 

Thanks for that - just spotted my UAP-LR (x2) on the list....arrgh. Thought I would get a few more years out of them. At least I have an excuse to upgrade to UAP-AC-LR (or similar) and get on to something a bit quicker...


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  #2509642 22-Jun-2020 11:59
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richms:

 

Roaming seems sketchy between different ones. I have no end of problems if I have the 2.4APs doing the same SSID that I have on the AC-Pros with the IOT stuff. If they are all on the old 2.4GHz ones then its fine. Now they do 8 SSIDs per radio I can retire the other ones but that is effort to arrange so I am just leaving it as is for now till I have to with them going end of support.

 

 

 

 

I think the dual band APs will only do wireless uplinks on the 5GHz band so if you are needing to use that function you will need to be aware of that. But I have seen multiple sites with a mix of different models and generation of APs without issues.


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  #2509645 22-Jun-2020 12:04
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I have three UAP-AC-LR's and two UAP-PROs and they work fine, I can roam around between them pretty seemlessly.

 

As mentioned, the PROs are going EOL but they're old secondhand things that live in the carport and shed, so I don't really care too much.


 
 
 

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  #2509651 22-Jun-2020 12:10
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richms:

 

Roaming seems sketchy between different ones. I have no end of problems if I have the 2.4APs doing the same SSID that I have on the AC-Pros with the IOT stuff. If they are all on the old 2.4GHz ones then its fine. Now they do 8 SSIDs per radio I can retire the other ones but that is effort to arrange so I am just leaving it as is for now till I have to with them going end of support.

 



I have a similar issue but with a UAP (the original one) and the UAP-Pro - when something latches onto the 5Ghz of the Pro it wont easily move to the 2.4 of the UAP, even when the signal is stronger, and it can take while to switch.

Also, don't these older models (UAP, UAP-Pro, UAP-LR) not support 802.11 v / r/ k ? Didn't they have some weird Unifi fast roaming thing, like this https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004662107-UniFi-Fast-Roaming?

And doesn't that mean the old and new models wont hand-off as well as just using models that support the v / r / k standards? (I have been looking into this as I plan to upgrade my AP's and how they would work with mixing old and new, and I came to the assumption just getting 2 new ones was best, or trying to find a UAP-Pro to replace the UAP).


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  #2509713 22-Jun-2020 13:12
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I thought all roaming was a client decision and if things are "latching on" that's their own stupid fault?


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