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wizard99

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#275703 5-Sep-2020 15:53
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I've had the same Asus RT AC 68w  for 5 years and I've added a large mix of IoT Wall Switches / Outlets, and the count is likely 50+ Devices. 1 1/2 years ago I thought it would be an easy upgrade to add another Asus 68W to Create a MESH....  That's where the easy stopped. Long story short.... Two (2) Bad 68W's in a row... I then tried two other more expensive Asus Routers.... And quickly learned throwing money at this issue was the wrong approach. Each additional Router I tried to get to MESH failed in all kinds of ways. Asus could not resolve the problems and I just gave up at that point and kept my old Router.. hoping one day the Mesh market would mature. So fast forward to today.... a friend bought the TP LInk Deco M9 Plus and his son spent 3 hours configuring it, but it works he claims and has no dropouts... Just about any Mesh System (or Router) has a long list of unhappy customers when reading the reviews, and I know some issues are self inflicted..... 

 

So I just received my Deco M9 Plus 3 pack, and out of the gate, issues!  First it would not accept my password.. I used the same Name & Password to hopefully not have to RESET every WiFi Device I own..

 

After numerous "chats" with TP Link (the agents I spoke with definitely need better tech training on there products) they asked me to forget about the 2.5 /5g, and setup a GUEST account with a different password. In frustration I did so, but only added one letter to my 10 alpha/numeric password. The 11 alpha/numeric worked, but why? I asked what are the DECO minimum /  maximum requirements for Passwords? Of course... They did not know..... I then started to RESET all my devices, and I started with my 6 Alexa devices. All worked but one..the Echo Show would just not connect! I then took the WiFi system off line, did a Factory Reset of all three, and started fresh, this time I only hooked up ONE Deco to Test..... This time NONE of my devices would connect. My 3rd party wifi analyzer showed the signal... but would allow no connections. 

 

Chatted again with the help team and another round of "I've already answered your same questions Twice" before they would escalate the call, and then told me they would have to forward it to the engineers for follow up.....

 

So really... my question is: If (and when) I get a working MESH system, should not all of my devices readily connect to the new Wi-Fi if I use the same Name & Password credentials they were set up with?

 

Do devices look at more than the Name & Password? Do I really need to RESET every device I have when I introduce a new WiFi Router?

 

Thanks for any suggestions...  I've already worn out one paperclip resetting those Mesh devices!


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  #2557534 5-Sep-2020 16:35
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You should have no problem if the SSID and password are EXACTLY the same. This means case sensitive - BoatShed is not the same as Boatshed and not the same as boatshed.





 

 

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  #2557543 5-Sep-2020 16:46
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I have moved about 60 devices from an old junk router to my unifi system with the same SSID and PSK and they all came over fine except from sonoffs that had really old software on them. They seemed to attach to the mac address of the device as well as the SSID.

 

I haven't tried with consumer targeted wifi gear myself but other people have reported that devices would move over ok. Primitive gear doesn't really try to protect themselves from network impersonation so are usually ok with just a matching SSID and PSK, and dont care about the other details the network broadcasts.





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  #2557595 5-Sep-2020 17:35
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freitasm:

 

You should have no problem if the SSID and password are EXACTLY the same. This means case sensitive - BoatShed is not the same as Boatshed and not the same as boatshed.

 

 

Also the make sure that you are using the Same Encryption algorithm e.g if using WPA2 on the old you must keep it the same on the new

 

If you are using WPA on the old, take this opportunity to change to WPA2  


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  #2557699 6-Sep-2020 01:19
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Thank you all for those suggestions..... The Setup GUI's are nice, but definitely take too much for granted as to what is in the Ecosystem..

 

I will definitely take a closer look at the security encryption..... Maybe the default flavor on the Deco is different that the Asus....

 

Yes... the credentials were written in stone exact..... and I do have a varied mix of Sonoff / Morning Electric Off Shore IoT devices, but it was when only 5 of the 6 Alexa devices that would work.. but then again I had to start from scratch.

 

And neither a 6 year old iPad and a 2 year old iPad would work...

 

The only saving grace of this all is that ironically the Asus still works each time I put it back ins service, so I'm not dead in the water...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2557796 6-Sep-2020 11:09
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Can you configure the asus as a accesspoint and just hang it off the ethernet ports of the deco? so you dont need to deal with its mesh, and keep it around as a 2.4GHz ap for all the IOT gear?

 

I was covering my entire house with a single 2.4GHz AP with a booster on it back in the past before I found the issue with the sonoff sticking to a certain mac address and not moving on old software. You dont need high speed to run them and you may be OK if you relocate the AP driving the IOT stuff to a better location using the decos mesh to get it internet access.





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  #2557871 6-Sep-2020 12:58
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again...t hanks for all the responses...

 

 

 

I again took another swipe at it... reset everything.....

 

 

 

This time, I altered my SSID name from all caps to all lower case...... then added just an x to the 10 alpha numeric.... and it worked.

 

Downside is I am in the process of having to uninstall and reinstall the 50+ devices tot he new credentials.  

 

And was unpleasantly surprised that I needed to disconnect and Re-Map all my Drive on my NAS... they just would no longer pass through the connected switch on my network...

 

Difficult to say if another manufacturers MESH would behave the same... I was so close to returning this and getting the Synology......

 

Still trying to coax Alexa to play nicely with all my IoT switches...

 

Not what I expected when switching over...  And I can't recall this issue being spoke about in any of the multitude of Negative reviews on this Model.. or really any brand or model...

 

It's always fun discovering issues like this.... And not giving up!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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