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blakey85

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#275767 8-Sep-2020 13:23
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Hello everyone,

 

Hope you are all well.

 

I am seeking some advice and recommendations to extend/improve the Wifi in my parents house.

 

My parents internet was with WxC. The average speed was coming in at 18Mbps. If I was going to live at home for a bit again that speed simply wouldn't do! I changed them over to Vodafone (Max Plan as my Dad has other accounts with them so got some good discounts) and received a Vodafone Ultra Hub Plus. As my Nanna lives with my parents we also have a phone line for her. 

 

This presented the first problem - the Ultra Hub has to be placed in the garage where all the connections for the phone etc are. Whilst the Wifi signal is great at the garage end of the house, in the kitchen, the speed for the wifi is extremely slow and occasionally it can't be picked up (on multiple devices).

 

I had connected the Apple TV directly using the LAN connection (There are 2 LAN ports in my parents house - one in the office and one in the lounge). The speed was maxed at 100Mb and I couldn't understand why. I also was playing around with the old router - same speed. I then connected it directly to the Ultra Hub and got higher speeds. This is when I learnt about Cat5e cables! I have ordered some new ones to replace the wiring in the garage (although I am unsure if this will make any difference if the speeds will still be subject to the capability of the cables built into the house). It was also when I learnt about Double NAT.

 

I would be grateful for any ideas you may have to help improve our Wifi. I been reading about all the different options, wifi extenders, using power lines, but ideally would like one wifi signal throughout the house.

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2560299 8-Sep-2020 13:35
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I am on fibre with Vodafone. I have ONT in the garage. Changed to this and very happy. You remove the Ultra completely and it runs everything. Had to reboot it recently as traffic went wonky for some reason (may have been a Voda issue).  https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETHUA1300/Huawei-Q2-Pro-Hybrid-Mesh-Wi-Fi-System---3-Pack-3


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  #2560312 8-Sep-2020 13:57
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Either that, or the D-Link COVR Mesh, or the Fritz!box Mesh.

 

Plug the router in the garage, connect the mesh repeater via ethernet from inside the house, coverage done.





 

 

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  #2560318 8-Sep-2020 14:10
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Quinny:... I have ONT in the garage. Changed to this and very happy. You remove the Ultra completely and it runs everything. ...

 

 

 

I also have a Vodafone service with my ONT connected to the Ultra Hub Plus router and my 1st (of three) Google Wifi devices connected to the Ultra Hub Plus router.  I've disabled as much of the functionality of the Ultra Hub Plus router as possible and rely on the Google to manage my ethernet and wifi network using additional switches, etc.

 

I did try to remove the Ultra Hub Plus router by running an ethernet cable from the ONT to the 1st Google Wife devices without much success and assumed that it wasn't possible. Maybe I should try again?


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  #2560448 8-Sep-2020 17:31
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blakey85:

 

Hello everyone,

 

Hope you are all well.

 

I am seeking some advice and recommendations to extend/improve the Wifi in my parents house.

 

My parents internet was with WxC. The average speed was coming in at 18Mbps. If I was going to live at home for a bit again that speed simply wouldn't do! I changed them over to Vodafone (Max Plan as my Dad has other accounts with them so got some good discounts) and received a Vodafone Ultra Hub Plus. As my Nanna lives with my parents we also have a phone line for her. 

 

This presented the first problem - the Ultra Hub has to be placed in the garage where all the connections for the phone etc are. Whilst the Wifi signal is great at the garage end of the house, in the kitchen, the speed for the wifi is extremely slow and occasionally it can't be picked up (on multiple devices).

 

I had connected the Apple TV directly using the LAN connection (There are 2 LAN ports in my parents house - one in the office and one in the lounge). The speed was maxed at 100Mb and I couldn't understand why. I also was playing around with the old router - same speed. I then connected it directly to the Ultra Hub and got higher speeds. This is when I learnt about Cat5e cables! I have ordered some new ones to replace the wiring in the garage (although I am unsure if this will make any difference if the speeds will still be subject to the capability of the cables built into the house). It was also when I learnt about Double NAT.

 

I would be grateful for any ideas you may have to help improve our Wifi. I been reading about all the different options, wifi extenders, using power lines, but ideally would like one wifi signal throughout the house.

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

 

the apple tv top speed is max 100 mbs

 

as it only has a 10/100 mbps network card

 

as with the wifi problem

 

get a few wifi extenders that should help you out

 

 





 

 

 


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  #2560449 8-Sep-2020 17:33
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If getting anything, do not get WiFi extenders. They cause interference and will reduce your overall speed in the whole network.

 

Get a mesh solution if you really want to extend the WiFi. Read my previous reply.





 

 

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  #2560453 8-Sep-2020 17:47
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Hi, so what did you learn about cat5e cables, they are GigE capable, infact they will do 2.5G and 5G to 100m in 90% of installation situations and in 100% of installations to around 70m, how long are your cables? that you think there is an issue with them.

 

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  #2560484 8-Sep-2020 19:17
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rogercruse:

I did try to remove the Ultra Hub Plus router by running an ethernet cable from the ONT to the 1st Google Wife devices without much success and assumed that it wasn't possible. Maybe I should try again?



VLAN Tagging not supported on Google WiFi so can't replace Vodafone Ultrahub Plus router with it.

 
 
 
 


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  #2560489 8-Sep-2020 19:38
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If you can run an ethernet cable then you just need to install a wireless access point in the body of the house. That'd be cheaper than a mesh system.


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  #2560974 9-Sep-2020 12:56
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Thank you for your responses so far.

 

freitasm:

 

Either that, or the D-Link COVR Mesh, or the Fritz!box Mesh.

 

Plug the router in the garage, connect the mesh repeater via ethernet from inside the house, coverage done.

 

 

 

 

I see that this system is on sale for $238 at Harvey Norman

 

https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/computers/networking-and-wireless/d-link-covr-ac1200-dual-band-wi-fi-system.html 

 

 

 

My extra Cat5e cables arrived this morning and my little experiment worked in that when I connect a device in either the lounge/office using the new cables, the speed was the same as using the Wifi near the garage. Can I connect all 3 Covr units to the LAN - one in garage, one in office and one in the lounge to create the mesh network?


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  #2560978 9-Sep-2020 13:01
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Each COVR unit has two ethernet ports. You plug the unit A port 1 (A1) to the ONT and configure the access. Use port 2 (A2) to send the connection to the office and plug that into another unit (e.g. B1). If you have a way to go from this unit to the other unit (B2 to C1) then ok, otherwise B and C will communicate via their wireless channel.

 

If you need more ports than this, the Fritz!box has four ports each.





 

 

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