Will this PoE switch be adequate?

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danepak

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#293185 4-Jan-2022 22:11

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/8-port-switch/tl-sg108pe/

And what's the difference between the one above and this one?

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg1008p/

All I need is to use two PoE ports (for wireless AP's).

The rest of the ports will be used for non PoE purposes.

Got a small commsboard with router, patch panel and a now not working PoE switch, hence the requirement for a new one.

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#2843244 4-Jan-2022 22:15

What make/model wireless ap?

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#2843245 4-Jan-2022 22:16

lxsw20:

What make/model wireless ap?

I've got two Cambium cnPilot e410

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#2843246 4-Jan-2022 22:21

One is a managed switch with POE (802.3af)

The other is a non managed switch but it does support POE+ (high power 802.3at rather than standard 802.3af)

For future proofing 802.3at is always a good thing to have, and if you don't need a smart switch or web management capabilities I'd opt for the POE+ one

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#2843249 4-Jan-2022 22:29

Thanks.

So just to confirm that you recommend the TL-SG1008P V4 ?

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#2843501 5-Jan-2022 11:10

danepak:

Thanks.

So just to confirm that you recommend the TL-SG1008P V4 ?

@danepak just to confuse things... your link to the TL-SG108PE defaults to the specs for V2. If you use the drop-down and select V3 or V4 you'll see it does in fact supports PoE+ on those versions of the TL-SG108PE.

Assuming you can get a TL-SG108PE V3 or (preferably) V4 either would appear superior since they have management functions like VLANs etc.

@sbiddle, would you concur?

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#2843503 5-Jan-2022 11:14

Am going to pick this one up today.
Doesn’t say if it’s the V4 though.

https://www.extremepc.co.nz/tp-link-tl-sg1008p-8-port-gigabit-desktop-switch-tl-sg1008p?__cf_chl_tk=Nhuq401KSYFe5CoRvTkD6cnpohntwmtu5O7_Q1ztKr4-1641328498-0-gaNycGzNB9E

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#2843504 5-Jan-2022 11:22

danepak: Am going to pick this one up today.
Doesn’t say if it’s the V4 though.

https://www.extremepc.co.nz/tp-link-tl-sg1008p-8-port-gigabit-desktop-switch-tl-sg1008p?__cf_chl_tk=Nhuq401KSYFe5CoRvTkD6cnpohntwmtu5O7_Q1ztKr4-1641328498-0-gaNycGzNB9E

@danepak the picture and listed specs of that would appear to be the TL-SG1008p V3. This would be the worst option as it doesn't support PoE+ and is also unmanaged.

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#2843510 5-Jan-2022 11:30

Paul1977:
danepak: Am going to pick this one up today.
Doesn’t say if it’s the V4 though.

https://www.extremepc.co.nz/tp-link-tl-sg1008p-8-port-gigabit-desktop-switch-tl-sg1008p?__cf_chl_tk=Nhuq401KSYFe5CoRvTkD6cnpohntwmtu5O7_Q1ztKr4-1641328498-0-gaNycGzNB9E

@danepak the picture and listed specs of that would appear to be the TL-SG1008p V3. This would be the worst option as it doesn't support PoE+ and is also unmanaged.

It doesn’t need to be managed (I don’t think so anyway - I’m a rookie and just need it for basic requirements).
Bugger - can’t seem to find the v4 version anywhere.

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#2843516 5-Jan-2022 11:41

Paul1977:
danepak: Am going to pick this one up today.
Doesn’t say if it’s the V4 though.

https://www.extremepc.co.nz/tp-link-tl-sg1008p-8-port-gigabit-desktop-switch-tl-sg1008p?__cf_chl_tk=Nhuq401KSYFe5CoRvTkD6cnpohntwmtu5O7_Q1ztKr4-1641328498-0-gaNycGzNB9E

@danepak the picture and listed specs of that would appear to be the TL-SG1008p V3. This would be the worst option as it doesn't support PoE+ and is also unmanaged.

Also, how do I see if it’s a v3 or v4? Does it have to say 802.3at compliant (and not just 802.3af)?
And really, for my simple requirements, if it a deal breaker?

Got the following connected:
2 x AP’s (PoE powered)
2 x TV’s
1 x Sonos Bridge
1 x telephone

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#2843517 5-Jan-2022 11:41

danepak:
It doesn’t need to be managed (I don’t think so anyway - I’m a rookie and just need it for basic requirements).
Bugger - can’t seem to find the v4 version anywhere.

Management is great if you're ever going to do things like VLANs. Most people don't need need it, but on a tech forum I'll always recommend it "just in case" unless it's a lot more expensive. But stock availability is obviously a problem at the moment.

It's possible that the picture and listed specs on the Extreme PC website are out of date, it might be a V4. You could ring and ask them to check the box (and double check it yourself as well before purchasing).

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#2843518 5-Jan-2022 11:43

Paul1977:
danepak:
It doesn’t need to be managed (I don’t think so anyway - I’m a rookie and just need it for basic requirements).
Bugger - can’t seem to find the v4 version anywhere.

Management is great if you're ever going to do things like VLANs. Most people don't need need it, but on a tech forum I'll always recommend it "just in case" unless it's a lot more expensive. But stock availability is obviously a problem at the moment.

It's possible that the picture and listed specs on the Extreme PC website are out of date, it might be a V4. You could ring and ask them to check the box (and double check it yourself as well before purchasing).

Just called them. It’s the v3

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#2843526 5-Jan-2022 11:50

TP-Link make things quite confusing by using different models in different markets and also using hardware versions. Different hardware versions can have different specs as you've discovered.

Most of their newer products are all POE+ rather than POE but re not sold in NZ. I've had to pick a few things up from Amazon AU lately because they're simply not available in NZ - they do a great 5 port POE+ unmanaged switch that is not available from NZ distributors.

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#2843527 5-Jan-2022 11:52

danepak:
Also, how do I see if it’s a v3 or v4? Does it have to say 802.3at compliant (and not just 802.3af)?
And really, for my simple requirements, if it a deal breaker?

Got the following connected:
2 x AP’s (PoE powered)
2 x TV’s
1 x Sonos Bridge
1 x telephone

It probably has it printed near the barcode, but if it says it's 802.3at compliant, that would confirm it. Also it would be 64W total output, with up to 30W per port.

According to the specs your e410 APs are 802.3af and max out at 11.5W each, so you should have no issues running up to four of them on a TL-SG1008P V3.

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#2843529 5-Jan-2022 11:55

Paul1977:
danepak:
Also, how do I see if it’s a v3 or v4? Does it have to say 802.3at compliant (and not just 802.3af)?
And really, for my simple requirements, if it a deal breaker?

Got the following connected:
2 x AP’s (PoE powered)
2 x TV’s
1 x Sonos Bridge
1 x telephone

It probably has it printed near the barcode, but if it says it's 802.3at compliant, that would confirm it. Also it would be 64W total output, with up to 30W per port.

According to the specs your e410 APs are 802.3af and max out at 11.5W each, so you should have no issues running up to four of them on a TL-SG1008P V3.

Perfect. It’s just for a small household, so I assume the 802.3at isn’t necessary for our usage.
I’ve read a bit about it and it mentions certain VoIP phone models, which isn’t required for us.

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#2843537 5-Jan-2022 12:09

danepak:

Perfect. It’s just for a small household, so I assume the 802.3at isn’t necessary for our usage.
I’ve read a bit about it and it mentions certain VoIP phone models, which isn’t required for us.

For your current requirements you'd get no benefit from 802.3at. As @sbiddle said, it would just be future proofing you better.

EDIT: Just to add, hi-res PoE cameras is likely where you'd run into trouble by not having 802.3at as it would limit your selection.

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