Running 1GBe cable to outside cabin for home office from switch

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#301988 20-Oct-2022 21:10

Hi folks,

In the process of building a cabin in the back garden so I can work from home without interruption from kids and family. Cabin will be powered from the main switch board and work done by local electrician. I've wired my home myself for ethernet so want to run a single Cat 6 cable from the house to the cabin at the same time.

Within the cabin, the ethernet cable will terminate in to a Unifi Inwall HD to give wifi / 4 ethernet ports for the various devices as well as centralised management as part of the rest of my unifi setup. Cable run is no more than 20m from switch to switch.

What is the right approach for submerged ethernet cables?

Thanks,

Chris

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#2985497 20-Oct-2022 21:23

Best practice would be to use gel-filled cable within conduit as moisture will inevitably collect within conduit.

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#2985501 20-Oct-2022 21:38

Thanks, thought so. Any particular brands? I don't want to have to terminate myself as clean up is always annoying.. so pre terminated would be good, probably around 30m I guess... I've so far only found the Dynamix rolls of 305m which is a tad too much!

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#2985524 20-Oct-2022 22:18

Recently did the same. Sparky put the Ethernet in the white conduit from mitre10.

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#2985734 21-Oct-2022 09:11

tchart: Recently did the same. Sparky put the Ethernet in the white conduit from mitre10.

If your doing yourself, buy from Bunnings

Deta conduit from Bunnings. 20mm x4m - $6.95

Marley conduit from M10. 20mm x4m - $27.85

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#2985739 21-Oct-2022 09:19

itxtme:

tchart: Recently did the same. Sparky put the Ethernet in the white conduit from mitre10.

If your doing yourself, buy from Bunnings

Deta conduit from Bunnings. 20mm x4m - $6.95

Marley conduit from M10. 20mm x4m - $27.85

I was just looking at the conduits last night and saw the Marley stuff and how expesnive it was... why is the Bunning stuff cheaper? Thanks for the cheaper direction though!

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#2985753 21-Oct-2022 09:58

No clue other than its Marley, who offer big trade discounts that you and I cant get. I have used the Deta conduit for years, no issues at all.

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#2985766 21-Oct-2022 10:26

You should run fiber to be futureproof. Preterminated is sometimes cheaper than cat6 and there are switches with a SFP slot for pretty much no more than a good full copper switch now.

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#2985771 21-Oct-2022 10:31

I had considered fibre but as its only a 3m x 3m space I consider that fiber is not required as cat 7 over 30m will run 10gbe and I'm currently going to be using a Unifi In wall HD (1GBe incoming to WIFI 5 and 4 x 1Gbe outlets) for the termination point powered over POE from one of my unifi gen 2 switches in the main house.

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#2985776 21-Oct-2022 10:50

You don't need cat7 to support 10GbE. Cat6, or Cat 6a will do the job just fine, and they're rated to support 10GbE at 55m and 100m lengths respectively.

Hell, even ancient cat5 (not even cat5e) can "tolerate" it for short lengths depending on cable condition, but that's absolutely testing the limit, and the packet retry count would be up there!

For future-proofing, just make sure the conduit is large enough that the cable can be easily replaced by another (possibly fibre) if needed.

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#2985778 21-Oct-2022 10:58

Does anybody know of a reseller of gel filled cat 6 cable? Mostly I'm seeing double pvc walled cables for burial on amazon.com.au or what look like dodgy brands but I'm seeking a decent quality gel filled cable for durabilty even though it will be conduit buried.

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#2985786 21-Oct-2022 11:16

PB tech and get dynamix cable. I have seen so many crap cables from dodgey brands that have brittle insulation that seems to be more like a powder or something that just break apart.

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#2985794 21-Oct-2022 11:42

I wouldn't do fiber for speed, so much as more its more weather resistant.

Something like this might be a good off the shelf option for ethernet?

https://www.gowifi.co.nz/cabling/ethernet-cables/pur-sftp6a-30.html

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#2985871 21-Oct-2022 14:09

lxsw20:

I wouldn't do fiber for speed, so much as more its more weather resistant.

Something like this might be a good off the shelf option for ethernet?

https://www.gowifi.co.nz/cabling/ethernet-cables/pur-sftp6a-30.html

I know but I'd need to terminate the SFP in to either a media converter OR switch and as its only a small cabin and my router, homelab/switch's are held elsewhere its a little bit more expensive and more hassle... plus the inwall HD could not be POE powered so even more power plugs/sockets required.

I had seen that cable and it seems to be best so far... open to other suggestions too.

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#2985888 21-Oct-2022 15:55

https://www.gowifi.co.nz/cabling/ethernet-cable-rolls/dc-1042m.html

Cat5e outdoor per metre. Dry tape version rather than gel - each has it's benefits.