Tri-Band Ceiling Mounted WiFi 6E Mesh

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#302894 1-Jan-2023 21:23

Does such a thing exist? Our house doesn't really have anywhere to put access points in our hallways which are narrowish to ensure decent coverage.

I can see the business-grade stuff, which is eye-wateringly expensive and requires a dedicated controller, which is annoying (Omada).

I quite like the Tp-Link consumer stuff, but none of it matches my ideal requirements (would settle for WiFi 6).

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#3015987 1-Jan-2023 23:38

In NZ, I think WiFi 6E is not very commonly available yet, as it was illegal to use it until very recently. I am not actually sure that the regulations allowing it have been gazetted yet, but it was announced that they were going to allow it.

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#3016012 2-Jan-2023 10:12

what are you trying to achieve? do actually need wifi6E? do you even need wifi6

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#3016013 2-Jan-2023 10:15

surely if you have ceiling access you would be able to run cables to the AP's?

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#3016015 2-Jan-2023 10:18

Jase2985:

what are you trying to achieve? do actually need wifi6E? do you even need wifi6

Seamless reliable and fast wall-to-wall WiFi coverage in our house. If I am buying something, then I want it to be as future-proofed as I can.

I'd settle for Wifi 6.

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#3016020 2-Jan-2023 10:27

networkn:

Jase2985:

what are you trying to achieve? do actually need wifi6E? do you even need wifi6

Seamless reliable and fast wall-to-wall WiFi coverage in our house. If I am buying something, then I want it to be as future-proofed as I can.

I'd settle for Wifi 6.

unless you need max speed all the time on multiple devices, you are just throwing money away trying to be future proofed.

a decent 2x2 AC or AX setup will work fine and give speeds of ~4-500mbps when close to the AP and a couple hundred mbps through a wall or 2.

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#3016022 2-Jan-2023 10:29

Jase2985:

unless you need max speed all the time on multiple devices, you are just throwing money away trying to be future proofed.

a decent 2x2 AC or AX setup will work fine and give speeds of ~4-500mbps when close to the AP and a couple hundred mbps through a wall or 2.

Are you aware of any WIFI 6 (AX) Tri-Band Ceiling Mounted Mesh units? I couldn't find anything that really met that requirement.

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#3016023 2-Jan-2023 10:31

consumer mesh units generally arent designed to be ceiling mounted, as there generally isnt any power points up there to plug them in to.

can you not run an ethernet cable through the roof cavity?

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#3016034 2-Jan-2023 11:08

Jase2985:

consumer mesh units generally arent designed to be ceiling mounted, as there generally isnt any power points up there to plug them in to.

can you not run an ethernet cable through the roof cavity?

We have ethernet to where we want the ceiling-mounted units to go. It will be Ethernet Backhaul. The Tri-Band Requirement is 'just in case' we need to move them and there isn't Ethernet available.

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#3016036 2-Jan-2023 11:10

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-EAP660-HD-High-Density-Deployment/dp/B08PW34WPX?th=1

Seems to more than cover my requirements?

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#3016037 2-Jan-2023 11:13

networkn:

Jase2985:

consumer mesh units generally arent designed to be ceiling mounted, as there generally isnt any power points up there to plug them in to.

can you not run an ethernet cable through the roof cavity?

We have ethernet to where we want the ceiling-mounted units to go. It will be Ethernet Backhaul. The Tri-Band Requirement is 'just in case' we need to move them and there isn't Ethernet available.

then you dont need mesh units, you just need regular access points.

for what you want it will be one of the other, mesh or ceiling mounted with Ethernet backhaul

why would you want to move them?

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#3016052 2-Jan-2023 11:52

Grandstream GWN7664. It has a local controller on board and one of the AP's will act as a master. It is not owned by a Chinese company unlike TP-Link so will not ping back to China if that is a concern. It has a 1Gb and 2.5Gb POE port. It has Dual-band 4x4:4 MUMIMO. The price is also fantastic. I think PB-Tech might be slightly cheaper but shop around.

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#3019696 10-Jan-2023 17:21

I just installed the slightly cheaper GWN7660, very happy with it. Nice simple web gui for management and none of that cloud controller nonsense.

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#3019701 10-Jan-2023 17:49

PANiCnz:

I just installed the slightly cheaper GWN7660, very happy with it. Nice simple web gui for management and none of that cloud controller nonsense.

Another vote for Grandsteam here. I installed the GWN7664 (utter overkill to be honest) to extend the range into the garden (I placed it near an external wall indoors). Works a treat. Can nearly get 1Gbps outside! :D

Update: I got mine from https://pp.co.nz/product/result/ppid/AB13400

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#3019704 10-Jan-2023 17:55

I dont really see the use for 6E non-meshed in houses, as you will only be splitting out the newer devices to the 6GHz radio, you still have to have the 5GHz on for older devices or ones that will not do 6 because of region mismatches, and you are not using the 6GHz as the backhaul between them which is the most useful place for it right now.

Its like the DFS channels. Not a lot of use for residential because the client density isn't high enough to warrant the use of them.

I would just chuck up some U6 lites were you need it. Plenty fast enough for mobile device needs.

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#3069646 30-Apr-2023 17:26

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I dont really see the use for 6E non-meshed in houses, as you will only be splitting out the newer devices to the 6GHz radio, you still have to have the 5GHz on for older devices or ones that will not do 6 because of region mismatches, and you are not using the 6GHz as the backhaul between them which is the most useful place for it right now.

Its like the DFS channels. Not a lot of use for residential because the client density isn't high enough to warrant the use of them.

I would just chuck up some U6 lites were you need it. Plenty fast enough for mobile device needs.

It's more a case of having the flexibility to use wireless backhaul if for some reason we had to move the AP's from their original location etc.

I guess, for a couple of hundred dollars, I am trying my best to buy something that will meet our needs for a long while to come.

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