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#311501 21-Jan-2024 18:48

HI everyone,

Hopefully this is the right section to post this. I am looking for an installer to trench and install a fibre cable between two buildings (a scout hall and a cricket club) and I am not sure where to look. Does anyone know a Christchurch based installer that would do this?

Thanks :)

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#3184881 21-Jan-2024 19:26

Generally you put a fibre duct in and blow a fibre cable thru at a later date.

A civil contractor could dig a trench and install the duct, most plumbers have access to a digger and could do it, hire a trencher or small digger and DIY.

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#3184882 21-Jan-2024 19:28

Thanks. That was my next thought however, where does one get the fibre cable from? We don't have the termination gear so it would have to be pre-terminated to the right length.

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#3184887 21-Jan-2024 19:36

timmccullough:

Thanks. That was my next thought however, where does one get the fibre cable from? We don't have the termination gear so it would have to be pre-terminated to the right length.

The duct can be purchased from most electrical supply companies, same for the fibre, generally a comms tech will do the terminations each end. You can run conduit instead so that a pre terminated fibre cable can be pulled thru, but you run the risk of damaging the plug.

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#3184888 21-Jan-2024 19:36

i take it its private fibre not connecting to the LFC's network?

You can buy lengths of pre-terminated fibre, and its pretty easy to run a draw wire through the ducting with a plastic bag, some fishing wire and a vacuum.

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#3184889 21-Jan-2024 19:38

Any particular reason it has to be fibre?.

Running it as Gel filled cat 6 would reduce you level of complexity,

Whats the data demand likely to be, (Assuming you are sharing a UFB connection)

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#3184891 21-Jan-2024 19:43

We are a scout group with a cricket club beside it in a separate building (about 200 meters away). Yes, the idea is to share a UFB connection and security camera system between us - both groups are volunteer and run on donations and grants. We struggle with quite a bit with vandalism and general unsavory activity (drinking, glass smashing, burnouts etc) so we would like to pool our resources together.

I was thinking fibre due to the length required and there will be some bandwidth demand (the cricket club has the internet connection so the NVR will be located there, my plan is to vlan off some ports on a switch and pipe that through the fibre over to the cricket club and into the NVR while also keeping some room on our end for a wireless access point and potentially some other stuff).

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#3184892 21-Jan-2024 19:44

timmccullough:
HI everyone,

.....Does anyone know a Christchurch based installer that would do this?

Thanks :)

Teltrac or Cablecraft, possibly Multimedia, Aotea Electrical

There are.a few around, most installers could arrange the civil works as well.

Cablers.are.pretty stretched in CHC at the moment so may not happen overnight

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#3184899 21-Jan-2024 20:21

walk behind trencher, ~$300 for 4 hours

Deta 4m, 25mm heavy duty conduit ~$10 per length, some bends and adapters etc, and some PVC cement to help seal the joints.

2-3 hundred for 200m of pre-terminated fibre cable.

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#3184919 21-Jan-2024 21:25

You might be better off with a point-to-point wireless link and two separate DVRs.

If you do go digging, make sure you get a services locate.

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#3185021 22-Jan-2024 11:06

I think you are better off running a few cat6

if you run fibre then the gear needed to convert that at each end to what you wanna do is expensive and excessive for what you need.

To start out, I’d suggest you just run a trench and put in a suitable conduit with drawstring.

OR run a wireless point to point link.

which organisation is housing the main internet connection?

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#3185027 22-Jan-2024 11:15

I dont recommend copper at 200m between buildings, as a guide on the SNUP program inter-building copper runs were only allowed <15m, over that its fibre.

If you have a clear line of sight, I would use a 60ad link, which will give you a full GigE link for around $500 in parts, and a bit of cabling in each building.

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#3185028 22-Jan-2024 11:24

I just re read the distance.

agree that wireless point to point is better

im also suspect council is the landowner… that would be a process and a half to get permission to dig a trench….probally won’t be in the straight line or depth you are thinking.

i reckon you get a price for the gear needed etc etc and put in a funding request with various funding organisations…

council community boards also have a discretionary fund.

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#3185238 22-Jan-2024 15:56

Goosey:

I think you are better off running a few cat6

if you run fibre then the gear needed to convert that at each end to what you wanna do is expensive and excessive for what you need.

But it's not as expensive as it seems, and running copper between different buildings is usually a no-no.

A couple of media converters and SFP transceivers would be $180 for both ends, and it would be ~$100 for a 200m length of preterminated single mode cable from FS.com.

It's not the cheapest or easiest, but guarantees a solid connection regardless of RF interference or weather etc when comparing to radio bridges.

I ran fibre between my detached garage and house a few years back, and it's been rock solid.