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#324807 28-May-2026 18:51
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I have a Synology DS216Play on a table in the garage. I moved the table and the power board pulled ALL my devices off the table (router and all). I cannot believe I was so stupid.

 

The DS216Play has 2 drives. I have 2 x 6TB drives.

 

Drive 1 is no longer recognised by DSM.

 

I have tried moving the Drive 2 disk into Drive 1, but it doesn't seem to like it. So, after putting things back, I see:

 

 

I don't know what to do next. I cannot repair Drive 1 as it is non-existent in DSM

 

Ideally, just to get me up and running, I would like the 'Healthy' Drive 2 disk to be available, so I can make decision of whether I can get away with a 4TB drive (I understand, the good Drive 2 6TB drive would become a 4TB drive).

 

P.S. 6TB NAS drives, are very, very scarce. In fact, drives, in my opinion, are very expensive at the moment.





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  #3496293 28-May-2026 19:29
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You will need a drive of equal or larger size to recreate the array or backup the existing and create a new 4Tb array.

 

I would go and get an new 6+Tb drive as soon as possible.




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  #3496311 28-May-2026 19:56
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You need the same size drive or larger. To get you going again. 

 

 

 

As for the cost....how much do you value your data? is it worth the cost of a new drive?


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  #3496361 29-May-2026 06:43
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By the Power of Grayskull, I bet there's no backup. 😉





     

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  #3496362 29-May-2026 06:50
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Tinkerisk:

 

By the Power of Grayskull, I bet there's no backup. 😉

 

 

Drive 2 will have all the data which will then repopulate Drive 1 when it is replaced at the same size or larger


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  #3496363 29-May-2026 06:54
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cshwone:

 

Tinkerisk:

 

By the Power of Grayskull, I bet there's no backup. 😉

 

 

Drive 2 will have all the data which will then repopulate Drive 1 when it is replaced at the same size or larger

 

 

That’s exactly what I’m saying: no backup. Drive 2 comes under heavy strain during the resilvering process, and if it fails while that’s happening, everything is gone. That happens more often than you might think. RAID is NOT a backup; it merely saves time during recovery—assuming everything goes smoothly. But why am I even wasting my breath? 🙂





     

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  #3496364 29-May-2026 06:56
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Tinkerisk:

 

By the Power of Grayskull, I bet there's no backup. 😉

 

 

Not true (just not all on a single backup disk. I even have some duplicated in OneDrive and Google Drive).





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  #3496365 29-May-2026 07:00
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Alright, two more sync drives. Still no backup—oh well.

 

Simply ask yourself the following question: Which file—and from which drive—would you restore if you had caught a virus? The version from Drive 1? From Drive 2? The one from OneDrive? Or the one from Google Drive? You would find that they are all identical—that is, all infected with the virus. As I said, none of these constitute a true backup.

 

If you are restoring/resilvering your data, I strongly advise you *not* to access the NAS for any other purpose during the process; instead, just leave it strictly alone. Furthermore, as a precautionary measure, disable all synchronization tasks to ensure that no data is incorrectly synchronized during this time!





     

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  #3496366 29-May-2026 07:28
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alisam:

 

Drive 1 is no longer recognised by DSM.

 

I have tried moving the Drive 2 disk into Drive 1, but it doesn't seem to like it. 

 

I don't know what to do next. I cannot repair Drive 1 as it is non-existent in DSM

 

Ideally, just to get me up and running, I would like the 'Healthy' Drive 2 disk to be available, so I can make decision of whether I can get away with a 4TB drive (I understand, the good Drive 2 6TB drive would become a 4TB drive).

 

P.S. 6TB NAS drives, are very, very scarce. In fact, drives, in my opinion, are very expensive at the moment.

 

 

this is part of normal NAS operation. drives are guaranteed to fail - just a matter of when (or you replace them with higher capacity ones to meet your needs).

 

you cannot move drives to different slots! because you have the HDDs setup as RAID 1, just replace the dead one with a new one of the same or larger capacity. it will do the rest for you. also, as hinted already... do this now - before the other drive runs into trouble. rebuilding the array will take hours. hope and pray the other drive does not falter in that period.


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  #3496372 29-May-2026 08:41
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A lot of replies and I agree with the strongest words here.

 

RAID is not a backup. Online synchronisation is not a backup.

 

Swap the failed drive with same size or larger, let the Storage Manager know to use it, sit back and relax. Depending on how much storage is in use, it can be a few days before it's done. Do not interrupt the process.

 

Other things to consider:

 

  • Do not use SMR drives on NAS, it will bring down write speeds. Even though they might be cheaper per MB.
  • Try to get a drive that is at least the same speed, or it will slow down the existing setup.
  • If you originally bought both drives at the same time, consider replacing the second drive soon, because it's statistically possible it will fail soon too. 

 

 

 





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  #3496378 29-May-2026 09:05
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My 2x 8TB NAS drives are 6 years old. This thread prompted me to check replacement cost. Over $1k. Yikes!


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  #3496396 29-May-2026 09:45
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2-bay NAS units only make sense if at least one additional NAS (or external HDD) serves as a backup. Therefore, I recommend a 4-bay NAS at a minimum. While this, too, requires a backup, it is—thanks to at least one third parity drive—capable of correcting a data error, whereas a 2-bay NAS can merely detect one.

 

The fourth HDD slot can be used either for storage expansion, as a separate drive (e.g., data storage for a VM), or for faster internal data copying.

 

My main NAS has 4 data and 2 parity drives and can survive 2 failed HDDs at the same time with no data loss. My backup NAS has 3 data and 1 parity drive and can survive 1 failed HDD with no data loss. The third low power backup NAS at a trusted remote location has only 1 huge data drive and is lost when the HDD failed (therefore it is closely monitored by S.M.A.R.T). The latter is just in case, the whole house is burning down.

 

All three NAS have a time controlled, versioned backup strategy, so that a virus can’t spread to all systems in a short time. None of them is syncing. To handle this, I have a separate (fourth) Nextcloud server for the office and Streetfighter clients; it synchronizes exclusively the collaborational work but backs up its entire dataset to the main NAS (and the underlying backup cascade).





     

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  #3496401 29-May-2026 10:43
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alisam:

 

I have tried moving the Drive 2 disk into Drive 1, but it doesn't seem to like it. So, after putting things back, I see:

 



You're very lucky Synology RAID is quite forgiving, this is a good way to lose your data completely. 


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  #3496403 29-May-2026 11:10
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dafman:

 

My 2x 8TB NAS drives are 6 years old. This thread prompted me to check replacement cost. Over $1k. Yikes!

 

 

I'll buy a 1 x 8TB drive as 6TB seem to be out of stock at most places. Some online retailers may have one, but I don't like dealing with NZ retailers I have never heard of.

 

(To pay for it, my wife says I have to sell my only kidney.)





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Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
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  #3496404 29-May-2026 11:13
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alisam:

 

dafman:

 

My 2x 8TB NAS drives are 6 years old. This thread prompted me to check replacement cost. Over $1k. Yikes!

 

 

I'll buy a 1 x 8TB drive as 6TB seem to be out of stock at most places. Some online retailers may have one, but I don't like dealing with NZ retailers I have never heard of.

 

(To pay for it, my wife says I have to sell my only kidney.)

 

 

And the second kidney or her’s is for replacing the other HDD soon. And then the backup drive next. 🙂😉😎





     

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  #3496623 29-May-2026 22:38
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For backups,  I always consider how I would recover data if house was struck by lightning, flooding, fire, etc.

 

Valued data, such as photos and documents are in multiple places.

 

Hosted entertainment media, maybe 1 other places. I'm not going to be unduly hindered by its loss.

 

 


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