Pulling out my blue hair

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sabster

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#364 26-Jul-2003 22:14

I am at the end of my tether having spent 3 days trying to get my bluetooth desktop and Ipaq to talk to each other. I really really really would appreciate any help, since I am on the verge of going crazy.
Some basic info:

Ipaq: HP 2210 (aka 2215) running windows Mobile 2003
Dongle: Belkin bluetooth
Desktop: Windows 2000

I have tried following all the guides, and have even resorted to trawling through the forums for any snippets of information, but to no avail.

The only thing I have managed to get working so far is the file transfer function. Nothing else, including Lan access and ActiveSync.

The problem with Activesync seems to be that my bluetooth serial access port (found on the desktop config window), points to COM36. However, in the activesync window, only COM ports 1,2 and 3 appear. When I request an activesync session from the ipaq I get:
'Connect To
'BluetoothActiveSync
Status: Connecting to Host'

And it just hangs there. I checked on my PC control panel and the COM ports 36 - 42 (inclusive) are the 'bluetooth communications port'
No idea why these numbers are so high, and why none of them appear in the ActiveSync window connection settings on the desktop.

As for the LAN access, my PC setup is that I have an ADSL connection, an ethernet network card that is NOT connected (but installed in the PC), and whilst setting up bluetooth, a software bluetooth access server driver.
To stop any problems, I disabled the ethernet network card. I additionally set the configuration as sugegested in teh forums, and below is the config:

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : zeus
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth LAN Access Server Driver
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-C9-2D-4E-9D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.120.62.99
213.120.62.100

PPP adapter BTinternet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.120.110.37
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 213.120.110.37
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.120.62.99
213.120.62.100
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

I have checked the 'ICS' box for the PPP adapter (ie. my ADSL connection)

I have also downloaded VXUtil, and anytime I ping, I get 'can not find host', so this does not seem like a DNS problem.

Any suggestions would be great since I truly have tried everything..

Thanks

Sabster

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#775 26-Jul-2003 23:23

Are you running any personal firewall, like Zone Alarm?

Are you able to ping your desktop (192.168.0.1) from your iPAQ?

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sabster

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#777 27-Jul-2003 03:09

I am running BlackIce firewall, I have tried turning the balckice engine off, but still get no joy. It seems to stay in the state:

'Connecting to: BT Network Access
Using: Bluetooth Null Modem

Dialing: Connect.....'

When it is like that and I ping (as you suggested), the ping is successful. I get 5 good responses.

Thanks again

sabster

David Hettel

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#778 27-Jul-2003 03:43

First thing you need to do is fix the com port problem. To do this you'll need to first uninstall your Bluetooth software on the PC. Then you'll need to go to device manager and show hidden hardware. I don't have access to a win2k machine right now, to check just how you do this. You may see an option under device manager to show hidden hardware. Or you may need to go to control pannel and add/remove hardware (I think this may be it) and again show hidden or all hardware.

Once you get there you click on Ports (Com & LPT). You'll see a list of all your serial ports. Start at the highest and start removing them. Or uninstalling them. Clear them all out till you get down to Com 4. Com 3 should be your modem so don't remove it.

Then you need to reinstall your software. I think that means unplug your Bluetooth device first. When you plug it in you should get assign com ports from 4 to 8 or 9. Activesync will now be able to work with the com port you need for Bluetooth device.

We can then work on your network settings.

Hope this helps.

David

sabster

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#792 28-Jul-2003 07:20

I gave that a go. Basically uninstalled all the bluetooth software, disconnected the device, and then went to my hardware profile.
At that stage the only com ports displayed on my desktop were COM 1 and COM 2.
I then re-started the PC to verify this.

Upon installing the bluetooth software again, the same thing happened. Basically, the com ports 1 & 2 were still there along with ten blutetooth com ports (COM 36 - COM 46 inclusive).
Again, I have no idea why this is happening.

None of these com ports (COM 36 - 46) are in the activesync drop down list.

Thanks for your help so far, but more would definitely be appreciated.

Thanks again

sabster

David Hettel

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#796 28-Jul-2003 08:58

In Control Panel go to Add/Remove Hardware.
The wizard starts and pick Uninstall/unplug hardware | Next | Uninstall a device | next | You, get a list, there is a check box here for "Show hidden devices" Check this. Very important! If you do not check this, they will not show!

When you check this you get a wait curser, then go down the list, one by one. When you find one click on it then next, Then click "Yes I want to uninstall this device" Then Next. And you just keep doing this over and over and over, again until you are back to Com3.

Sorry I don't know a better way than this. Uninstalling your software first should remove the last few of them, and you need to reinstall it after you are back to just com 3 showing again.

David

sabster

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#810 28-Jul-2003 22:12

Ok, I gave that a try too, but no luck.
I don't have a 'COM 3'.
All I have is COM 1 and COM 2, and then COM 36 - COM 46 inclusive.

I have used the method you suggested of going through the hardware wizard and removing these one by one, which left just COM1 and COM2, and then reinstalled, but the same thing happens. I just end up with COM 1, 2 and then 36-46 for bluetooth!

No idea what is happening!!

Thanks again

sabster

CWCrosby

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#1002 10-Aug-2003 03:26

Ok, I'm in just about the same situation as our friend here. However, my USB bluetooth is on COM4 and I'm able to just about everything but ActiveSync and Internet Sharing. My pocket pc is a HP2215 running Windows Mobile 2003.

With internet sharing, I just get the BlueTooth Null Modem Dialog which just hangs as it says it is connecting.

You seem to have illuded to know what to do next?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

sabster

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#1018 11-Aug-2003 21:32

I am afraid I have made no further progress. Could this be a windows mobile 2003 'feature'???!

I have tried setting the dongle up with my laptop - just in case my PC is being silly. Still no joy. Pretty much similar things happen.

Any more suggestions would be appreciated.

chrisash32

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#1335 7-Sep-2003 11:50

i would just like to add that i have teh same problem with me HP2210 running 2003 i am haing no joy at all with ICS.

help needed if anyone knows how

every little could help

thanks
chris

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#1341 7-Sep-2003 16:18

Folks, check your network configuration and our Bluetooth Guides.

When you have the "Connecting" dialog and nothing happens two I suggest to check two things:

IP address: ICS requires 192.168.0.1 on the destination (in this case the Bluetooth Adapter). No other computer in your network can have this address. If you can't use it, try Winrouter Lite to do the routing.

Personal Firewall Software: turn the software off. If it works, you'll need to create a rule allowing this communication. NIS has a good local network wizard to guide thru this if needed.

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stern

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#8796 23-Sep-2004 14:23

I'm having a similar problem with my smartphone

I have had activesync working over bluetooth before but as soon as a I sync with the usb cable bluetooth stops working again and it takes me a week to sort it out again

right now it's not working at all I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling everything including the BT software and active sync I have tried both the XP2 stack and widcomm software that came with the dongle.

everytime I do this and start again the com port is assigned to 14 upwards the earlier com ports are not listed in the device manager they are not displayed in the "hidden items" and non plug n play devices

however if I right click the "standard serial over bluetooth link" icon and then properties>port settings>advanced I can choose the port number from anything between 1 and 256 BUT 1 to 9 say they're "in use"

I give up

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#8801 23-Sep-2004 17:09

Steern, please open a new Topic with your problem - it's not really related to the current topic.

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#8817 24-Sep-2004 03:14

really? the problem I'm having is the same com ports are being assigned in a high range no matter what I do.

sounds like a pretty similar problem to the above to me I have just identified more symptoms

ah well I do apologise and will create a new topic

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#8820 24-Sep-2004 07:43

stern, check this thread with instructions about COM ports...

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stern

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#8822 24-Sep-2004 09:27

Hi thanks for the reply I won't go into it in full detail as I'm going to start a new topic but I have read that thread several times in desperation. When I follow the instructions I don't get any of the old com ports displaying there is only Bluetooth port client driver, Bluetooth protocol stack and bluetooth serial driver

I have removed all of them and rebooted but com ports are assigned from 14+

So I can fully explain I will start a new thread