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# 36422 25-Jun-2009 07:12
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Hi Guys,



Im abit of a newbie when it comes to wiring Keystone RJ-45 jacks but thought it would look nice through the house instead of the wires poking out. So I brought all the keystone jacks and the punch down tool and thought I would try …….but I have a problem.

I brought X2 20m Cat5 cables off Trademe but before I used these I thought I would practice on one of those short blue cables you get with most routers etc you buy. So I cut one end off the cord and wired it into the Keystone jack using the “B” wiring pattern. I then plugged one end of the cable (The original end) into my router and the used another one of those blue cables and plugged one end into the Keystone jack and the other end into my laptop…….and it worked fine.

So now I did the same with the cables I brought off Trademe…….But they won’t work. I have tried wiring using both the “A” and “B” diagrams but nothing.




I tested the cables before I used them


Is there something I am doing wrong?




Can anyone help?



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  # 228166 25-Jun-2009 08:48
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Check the wiring on the RJ45 plug of the trademe cables. It should match the 568A or 568B configuration you're using.

See this website for details:

http://www.alatec.com/info/rj45.html




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  # 228168 25-Jun-2009 08:53
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I looked through the cable and it defiently looked the the "B" Wiring diagram, so i wired the Keystone up using the "B" Standard aswell. But when it didn't work i tried it using the "A" diagram aswell. I have tried actleast 2 times each wire cutting the wires back each time

 
 
 
 


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  # 228174 25-Jun-2009 09:15
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Are you sticking stranded wire into a punch down designed for solid?



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  # 228176 25-Jun-2009 09:18
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Bung: Are you sticking stranded wire into a punch down designed for solid?


Im not sure to be honest im using a Krone Punch Down Tool with Scissor - Metal

It's the 4th product down on this page http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/catalog/search?quickfind_needle=punch%20down

But either way the first one i wired worked fine using the blue cable that comes standard with routers etc?

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  # 228178 25-Jun-2009 09:24
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What I meant was are you using a jack and tool designed for solid conductor (typically .4mm) but cutting up patch cords that use stranded conductors. You may be getting a bad connection in 1 or more slots



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  # 228184 25-Jun-2009 09:47
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Bung: What I meant was are you using a jack and tool designed for solid conductor (typically .4mm) but cutting up patch cords that use stranded conductors. You may be getting a bad connection in 1 or more slots


Im not 100% sure what you mean sorry for being a noob but i appriciate you help.

Im using these jacks http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/catalog/entry?entry=93

How can i tell if the patch lead im cutting up uses stranded conducters ?

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  # 228192 25-Jun-2009 10:12
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Strip back the insulation on one of the 8 wires inside the patch lead.
If it is one copper wire then it is a solid cable.
If there are a lot of small wires then it is a stranded cable.



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  # 228195 25-Jun-2009 10:17
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I will check the above once i return home.

I know i checked last night but if the cable is just wired any old way (Not to A or B standards) but is still the same on both ends would the cable still work?

Or does it specifically have to be wired to A or B standard to work?



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  # 228261 25-Jun-2009 14:01
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CYaBro: Strip back the insulation on one of the 8 wires inside the patch lead.

If it is one copper wire then it is a solid cable.

If there are a lot of small wires then it is a stranded cable.


I opened the cable up and it is definetly a stranded cable?


 


The 2 cables i have made that have worked perfectly are both copper solid cable. Is there a solution to get the stranded cable to work?? or do i need to track done some 20M copper cable ?


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  # 228264 25-Jun-2009 14:12
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As far as I know you are supposed to use stranded cable for patch leads only (more flexible). Use solid core cable for runs between wall outlets and distribution panel ie long runs.





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  # 228266 25-Jun-2009 14:14
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JimmyLizar: As far as I know you are supposed to use stranded cable for patch leads only (more flexible). Use solid core cable for runs between wall outlets and distribution panel ie long runs.





Thats good to know now, i should of done more research before buying 20M of stranded cable not that the aution said that.

Is there anyway to tell if its stranded or solid like markings wise or do i just need to ask where i buy it from

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  # 228268 25-Jun-2009 14:21
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nathan23h:
Is there anyway to tell if its stranded or solid like markings wise or do i just need to ask where i buy it from


probably but I dont know it.  I would just ask.  The stuff I have seen on Cablemax website usually states SOLID or STRANDED.




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  # 228269 25-Jun-2009 14:22
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Solid CAT5 cable is quite a bit stiffer than a stranded patch cable.
That's probably the only way to tell without stripping back the insulation and checking.

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  # 228286 25-Jun-2009 15:43
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The only way to really know where the fault lies is to invest in a cable tester. You can get a cheap one for less than $15 on TM (or cheaper on dealextreme.com if you can want for shipping ex Hong Kong).



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  # 228287 25-Jun-2009 15:47
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sbiddle: The only way to really know where the fault lies is to invest in a cable tester. You can get a cheap one for less than $15 on TM (or cheaper on dealextreme.com if you can want for shipping ex Hong Kong).


 


So are you saying though that there is no reason stranded wire shouldn't work?


 


So if i brought a cable tested i should be able to find the problem and fix it?


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