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Topic # 9969 27-Oct-2006 16:07
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Hello, firstly great forums and tutorials here at Geekzone. It's the best resource i have come across, however all the tutorials here and elsewhere don't seem to provide a solution despite attemping more tutorials then i care to mention without success.

I would be forever grateful if someone could help Cool

I have:

Windows XP SP2
Anycom Software 5.0.1.1400 (Widcomm i think)
BT Dongle connected directly to PC

Now i have mRouter & a program called Proxy on the PC which shares internet to my Nokia N70 running GnuBox, and it works perfectly. I can surf the internet & share files, so i don't want to sacrifice the N70's arrangement to get the Ipaq 6365 functioning on the internet over bluetooth if i can help it.

Does anyone know if this Ipaq 6365 can even function in conjunction with mRouter? If so how do i go about configuring the Ipaq side? I can get a Network connection, status shows it's transfering data with good signal just like the tutorial but cant ping an IP or browse internet. Have also tried running welcome.exe from file manager but no luck.

Fingers crossed this can work.

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On a side note.. has anyone else found the 6365 a horrible PDA? I purchased mine 3 weeks ago, and i'm starting to think they should of built an actual hard reset button next to the On/Off switch. I don't even trust the thing to store new data during the day until i can get home and sync it to make a back-up, because virtually every time it will freeze during a menial task and need a hard reset before i get the sync done.

Even upgraded it to the latest firmware, but it's traits havn't changed.

So, considering a 99 cent notepad has taken over it's roll i'm hoping to at least use it for browsing.

Thanks in advance.

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Reply # 49997 27-Oct-2006 17:32
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Welcome to Geekzone... First off, the mRouter is specific for use with Symbian devices, so it won't work with your h6365... You have to configure the desktop as explained in our guides to use ICS.

One easier alternative is to establish ActiveSync over Bluetooth. This will automatically provide Internet connectivity to your Pocket PC through your desktop's network.







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  Reply # 50008 27-Oct-2006 20:37
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So.. mRouter doesn't work, gee i wish i asked for some help weeks ago and saved myself going through a box of pain killers.

Thankyou for the info. :)

I have followed the guide located http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1421 however there were a number of differences/problems.

They are:

1) In TCP/IP Properties on PC i have >> Obtain IP addresses automatically

2) On the Ipaq i have under Bluetooth Manager >> New >> Connect to a Network (Not connect to Internet with the Connect via LAN/Connect via Dial Up radio button options as in the guide)

So when i work around the above differencesand try to connect, i get to the pop-up >> Internet via Geekzone Connecting...

The Ipaq just "freezes" and the dialogue box just sits there, i have to switch the Ipaq off to get any function again.

Is this normal? I'm just hoping i didn't waste alot of money on a lemon. :(

Thankyou for any help given, it's much appreciated. (Especially after weeks of trying to get mRouter to work.. I'm an idiot)


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Reply # 50009 27-Oct-2006 20:59
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Yes, that's the correct guide to follow. But you are not following it! You have to change the IP configuration exactly like in the article. The Bluetooth adapter must be 192.168.0.1, and you have to be sure this is not already in use in your network.

Also, if it asks for a username and password after the connection is established, just leave all empty and check the box to remember the information.







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  Reply # 50023 27-Oct-2006 23:31
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Thankyou for your help freitasm.

I'm obviously not getting something with the guides, if the method works for others and no luck for me.

It says to modify the TCP/IP settings for Local Area Connection, so i done "exactly" as described in the guide, but i loose all internet connection on my PC and have to return it to "Obtain IP Automatically".

As for the "Bluetooth Network TCP/IP" settings, then yes i do have;

IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

I also tried the values in the guide (IP 192.168.2.45 >> Sub 255.255.255.0 >> Gateway 192.168.2.1)

Have tried every combination of the above values in my Local Area Connection & Bluetooth Network. Internet Connection Sharing is enabled on Local Area Connection.

I either get "Attemting to Connect to..." or "Connection Established.." then the PDA freezes and switching it off is the only way to restore any functionallity.



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  Reply # 50092 28-Oct-2006 19:17
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Ok, i'm beginning to think this just doesn't work end of story.

Have taken whole firewall down
Have followed the guide, If having problems with connection sharing.
Have tried allowing connection sharing on "Local Area Connection" & "Bluetooth Network"
Have run "Welcome.exe" on PDA
Have downloaded software to Ping IP's on PDA
...and a multitude of other suggestions over the past 3 weeks.

I configured the N70, mRouter no problems which was a poorly written lengthy guide with no illustrations. So i really don't think following the guides here is the issue. I just think this 6365 is the poorest excuse for a PDA i have ever used.

Plan B

Is there and way to configure the WAP/GPRS settings on the 6365 to use bluetooth as it's default connection just like on the N70 with GnuBox to accomplish the task?

I don't care if it destroys the 6365's ability to be used as a mobile phone. As you can probably tell i'm not impressed with it's phone features either. If i can do this method, i would prefer to buy a Nokia 3310 for $10 and use it as a phone instead.

Thankyou in advance.

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Reply # 50093 28-Oct-2006 19:41
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sweetfunny: Have tried allowing connection sharing on "Local Area Connection" & "Bluetooth Network"


Are you doing this in both connections? The "sharing" must be done only from the Local Area Connection to the Bluetooth Network.

You didn't specify what IP addresses you have in your network. Make sure they're not in the 192.168.0.x space, othewise I'd suspect one of those will be 192.168.0.1 and thus cause a network conflict.

A firewall shouldn't cause problems. except if it's Zone Alarm or Norton Internet Security. Those change deeply some configuration and even when off they still interfere. I certainly don't use either, since I have a router with a built-in firewall and NAT, so I delegate network protection to a third party device.

There are lots of configuration issues on this. It worked for a lot people people, but each PC is different from others.

You think you are using Widcomm, so I believe the screenshots are similar? Just to confirm, because that you have the correct software, because the Microsoft software does not support LAN sharing.









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  Reply # 50110 28-Oct-2006 21:46
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I really appreciate your help freitasm, i am blessed to receive help from someone with knowledge such as yourself.

* Yes i have connection sharing enabled on my Local Area Network
* I am using Widcomm 5.0.1.1400 Bluetooth drivers
* I have created "Allow" firewall rules for the 192.169.0.xxx range, and the Bluetooth software, plus to be sure i'm dropping the PC-cillin firewall totally during testing to rule out conflicts. (even if this isn't necessary just to be sure)

I can share an internet connection with my N70, however when i test configurations with the Ipaq i'm doing it twice to be sure. Once with mRouter running, and again without it running to avoid any possible conflicts.

You didn't specify what IP addresses you have in your network. Make sure they're not in the 192.168.0.x space, othewise I'd suspect one of those will be 192.168.0.1 and thus cause a network conflict.


Not sure what you mean by "what IP addresses are in my network?"

As i mentioned in my previous post, in Local Area Netowrk >> TCP/IP >> Properties i have "Obtain IP address Automatically" and if i change it to follow the guide "exactly" i loose total internet connection on the PC.





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  Reply # 50953 3-Nov-2006 16:43
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Meh... Forget about it.

The IPAQ has bounced off the wall and no longer functions. I should of done that weeks ago!

What a mistake purchasing that buggy piece of garbage was. That was the WORST experience i have ever had with ANYTHING i have purchased in my entire life.. period.

Never again will i own a device that runs Windows Mobile.

Beware of devices that claim a million features like the Ipaq 6365, as it doesn't perform even one of those features well enough to bother.

Funny how i can configure Bluetooth Internet Sharing to other devices such as Symbian/Palm in 10 minutes, yet 50 HOURS was spent on buggy Windows Mobile garbage with the only result being dozens of hard resets.

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Reply # 50957 3-Nov-2006 17:15
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I am sorry you have this kind of experience, but I feel the configuration on this specific PC isn't correct. Too late now anyway.





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