CleverLoop Smokey

Forums › Gadgets, robotics, home automation, electronics (including wearables) › CleverLoop Smokey

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
79253 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator

ID Verified

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#198527 12-Jul-2016 20:03

If you have a spare/old Android device you can put it to good use: try CleverLoop Smokey.

The folks from CleverLoop launched this free app that will monitor sounds and in case of a smoke alarm being activated it will notify you on your main smartphone.

1 | 2

3226 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590514 12-Jul-2016 20:06

Yes please, an always on mic in my house, just what I always wanted...

CPU: AMD 5900x | RAM: GSKILL Trident Z Neo RGB F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-32-GB | MB: Asus X570-E | GFX: EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti| Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 2560x1440

Quic: https://account.quic.nz/refer/473833 R473833EQKIBX

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
79253 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator

ID Verified

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#1590515 12-Jul-2016 20:09

Hmmm. I see you brought in the tinfoil hat to the discussion. A bit different from Amazon Echo and I actually met one of the CleverLoop guys (he's Wellington-based) and one of their developers so I think this may bring the conspiracy theories...

gzt

17104 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1590519 12-Jul-2016 20:16

mentalinc:
Yes please, an always on mic in my house, just what I always wanted...

The app perfoms analysis locally. It looks for common alarm signatures and creates an alert if any are detected. Good idea I thought.

mdf

3513 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590538 12-Jul-2016 20:35

freitasm:

Hmmm. I see you brought in the tinfoil hat to the discussion. A bit different from Amazon Echo and I actually met one of the CleverLoop guys (he's Wellington-based) and one of their developers so I think this may bring the conspiracy theories...

@freitasm, any chance you can tempt Mr CleverLoop onto Geekzone for product suggestions? I really want one, but am being held back by lack of an in-house siren and keypad/manual override module.

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
79253 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator

ID Verified

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#1590585 12-Jul-2016 20:59

Mr CleverLoop wants to offer a discount to Geekzone users - I was going to send via email but didn't want to be the only thing in the email. If you think it's worth it I will create a message and send to everyone (who is accepting our emails/newsletter obviously).

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#1590591 12-Jul-2016 21:10

Since I'm home nearly all the time it wouldn't do me much good, but I applaud the idea.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

blakamin

4431 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user

#1590593 12-Jul-2016 21:12

freitasm:

Mr CleverLoop wants to offer a discount to Geekzone users - I was going to send via email but didn't want to be the only thing in the email. If you think it's worth it I will create a message and send to everyone (who is accepting our emails/newsletter obviously).

Yes please!

Equinox IT

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.

mdf

3513 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590594 12-Jul-2016 21:19

freitasm:

Mr CleverLoop wants to offer a discount to Geekzone users - I was going to send via email but didn't want to be the only thing in the email. If you think it's worth it I will create a message and send to everyone (who is accepting our emails/newsletter obviously).

Yeah, I'm good with a discount! Thanks Mr Cleverloop!

Completely unrelated of course, but how do I check if I am signed up for a newsletter? I get geekzone forum update emails pretty much constantly (and I'm happy about that), but can't recall ever reading a newsletter...

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
79253 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator

ID Verified

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#1590666 12-Jul-2016 23:22

That's because you aren't signed up. Check your profile.

mentalinc

3226 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590769 13-Jul-2016 06:49

freitasm:

Hmmm. I see you brought in the tinfoil hat to the discussion. A bit different from Amazon Echo and I actually met one of the CleverLoop guys (he's Wellington-based) and one of their developers so I think this may bring the conspiracy theories...

Indeed, look at all the permissions it requires, plus it's a free app, so assume you're the product right? Yes i see they say hidden in a clicky that everything is done locally...

Device & app history

read sensitive log data

Location

precise location (GPS and network-based)
approximate location (network-based)

Phone

read phone status and identity

Photos / Media / Files

read the contents of your USB storage
access USB storage filesystem
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage

Storage

read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage

Microphone

record audio

Wi-Fi connection information

view Wi-Fi connections

Device ID & call information

read phone status and identity

Other

change your audio settings
control vibration
control flashlight
full network access
connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi
view network connections
prevent device from sleeping
run at startup

Surely it only needs microphone and the following to send alerts..

full network access
connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi
view network connections
prevent device from sleeping
run at startup

CPU: AMD 5900x | RAM: GSKILL Trident Z Neo RGB F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-32-GB | MB: Asus X570-E | GFX: EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti| Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 2560x1440

Quic: https://account.quic.nz/refer/473833 R473833EQKIBX

MikeB4

18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#1590780 13-Jul-2016 07:35

I have to admit I get nervous of companies that hide their info. The about us link just goes to more sales blurb, the contact us is a mail to link, the help is a mail to link, no phones no physical address and the FB page is the same.

mentalinc

3226 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590787 13-Jul-2016 08:05

MikeB4: I have to admit I get nervous of companies that hide their info. The about us link just goes to more sales blurb, the contact us is a mail to link, the help is a mail to link, no phones no physical address and the FB page is the same.

http://www.cleverloop.co.nz/privacy_policy.en.html

CleverLoop Inc.
Rm 1318-19 Hollywood Plaza, 610 Nathan Rd
Mongkok, Kowloon 999077
Hong Kong

There is nothing in the NZ companies register to CleverLoop

CPU: AMD 5900x | RAM: GSKILL Trident Z Neo RGB F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-32-GB | MB: Asus X570-E | GFX: EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti| Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 2560x1440

Quic: https://account.quic.nz/refer/473833 R473833EQKIBX

MikeB4

18435 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#1590819 13-Jul-2016 09:29

mentalinc:

MikeB4: I have to admit I get nervous of companies that hide their info. The about us link just goes to more sales blurb, the contact us is a mail to link, the help is a mail to link, no phones no physical address and the FB page is the same.

http://www.cleverloop.co.nz/privacy_policy.en.html

CleverLoop Inc.
Rm 1318-19 Hollywood Plaza, 610 Nathan Rd
Mongkok, Kowloon 999077
Hong Kong

There is nothing in the NZ companies register to CleverLoop

mentalinc

3226 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#1590837 13-Jul-2016 10:00

We collect the following personal and device information:

Information and data that is gathered by CleverLoop’s devices and sensors, such as activity, movement and motion, video footage and audio data.

Either not updated with smokey or not all is right.

CPU: AMD 5900x | RAM: GSKILL Trident Z Neo RGB F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-32-GB | MB: Asus X570-E | GFX: EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti| Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 2560x1440

Quic: https://account.quic.nz/refer/473833 R473833EQKIBX

CleverLoop

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

Trusted

CleverLoop

#1595061 19-Jul-2016 14:37

Hi all

'Mr. CleverLoop' here. Happy to take any questions you have about the CleverLoop security camera system, or CleverLoop Smokey.

I see there were a few questions about contact details and Smokey app permissions.

If our go to our NZ website, www.cleverloop.co.nz you will see contact phone numbers in NZ. Feel free to give us a call anytime, more than happy to talk.

The app permissions used for Smokey were actually set by default by our app developer to be the same as the full video security camera system. He should have narrowed it down to only those permissions needed by Smokey, which is a lot narrower. Nice pick-up by the Geekzone community, so thanks for that. The next Smokey version update to PlayStore, which will be in the next day or so, will reduce permissions to:

- connect to or disconnect from WLAN networks (full network access, view network connections, view WLAN status)

- run at startup

- control flashlight (control vibration, prevent phone from sleeping)

- change your audio settings

Thanks

1 | 2