Thoughts on a vacuum cleaner

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#2741965 9-Jul-2021 18:31

I can just feel a serious bout of prevarication coming on. For the price (the cheap end), the Miele C2 seems good and gets good reviews, but that Electrolux is cheaper and bagless, but gets somewhat worse reviews. Sigh.

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#2741966 9-Jul-2021 18:39

We had a large Dyson but then we got a robot vacuum (Roborock S5). The large Dyson was rarely used so we sold it and purchased a Dyson stick vacuum. This combo works really well for us, the robot vacuum does 95% of the work and the rest we can do with the stick vacuum. We use the stick vacuum a lot more than the plug in one. Not because the robot vacuum is doing a worse job but because it's so easy to just grab when you spot something that needs vacuuming (stairs, top of cabinets etc). Obviously doesn't work for every house layout or lifestyle but it works for us.

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#2741989 9-Jul-2021 21:41

I've tried various vacuum cleaners over the years (both bagged and bag-less) and the Miele (despite being bagged) is incredibly good. They maintain suction levels to a degree that I've not seen any other brands do. With non-Miele brands I often have to do several passes over the same space to pick up all the dirt etc, whereas Miele vacuum cleaners I can cover a lot of ground in shorter time and still achieve a better clean than other brands. A warning for those wanting bag-less cleaners, I've tried a few bag-less cleaners (as I wanted to avoid buying bags and such) and I've found them to be not worth the hassle and I am now an advocate for bagged cleaners. Bagged cleaners have the advantage that all the dirt goes into the bag which can be easily disposed of. Bag-less cleaners containers can be fiddly to empty and can retain awful smells if you accidentally hoover up smelly stuff. Good bagged cleaners also have extra filters (not just the bags) and it's convenient enough to replace the filters each time you get a box of bags/filters.

My advice: stick with bagged cleaners, especially Miele brand ones.

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#2741990 9-Jul-2021 22:08

I can highly recommend this one;

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/bissell-powerforce-helix-upright-vacuum/R2237532.html

It does a great job and has a power brush head. The brush is powered by a rubber belt so if it breaks it's easy to repair yourself - they even include spare belts. It's height adjustable for carpets and bare floor. The filters are all washable and the chamber is super easy to empty.

Prior to this we had a $1000 Electrolux. It looked great but gave us endless problems. The bissel is so amazing that actually have two (one for my office and one for the house).

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#2742023 10-Jul-2021 08:11

tehgerbil:

We had a Dyson that starting sucking less at 8 years old we bought another Dyson Cinetic Big Ball.

The small dust compartment is quite poor, needs emptying 4 times on a weekly vacuum (2 cats, dog 2 kids and 2 adults) and the small lead means plugging it in twice for a relatively compact 3 bedroom house.

Same as per my post, bit of a pain. But I weight my opinion on it due to its performance. Add a small extension cord, I keep a wide bucket and empty into that as needed. But I like how it sucks and how easy to clean the turbo head.

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#2742072 10-Jul-2021 12:14

Big Miele fan, my current garage/car vacuum is a 25 year old Miele hand me down from mum, still sucks amazingly well.

house vacuum is a 10 year old bagged Miele that does a brilliant job still. We’ve got a dyson v6 that I bought when they came out and this is fine for crumbs here and there, but for a decent clean or use on a hard floor I still grab the Miele.

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#2742132 10-Jul-2021 14:19

For my 2 cents we have had an Electrolux Ultraone for a number of years and it has performed well, got it on 'sale' 1/2 price from Farmers about $300 from memory. Bagged is the way to go. Having had a cheap bagless one before this, the convenience of no bag is offset by the need to regularly clean the filter. Bagged = have to buy bags but less filter cleaning. Bagless = don't have to buy bags but more filter cleaning. When doing research Miele were right at the top too but got a better price on the Electrolux. We have a Robot (Roborock S6) now too so the vacuum cleaner is only used about once a month so haven't had to buy new bags for ages.

*Edit - we have an Electrolux stick vac (bagless) that doubles as a handheld as well for quick tidy ups, garage and vehicles etc.

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#2742596 11-Jul-2021 19:24

KiwiSurfer:

I've tried various vacuum cleaners over the years (both bagged and bag-less) and the Miele (despite being bagged) is incredibly good. They maintain suction levels to a degree that I've not seen any other brands do. With non-Miele brands I often have to do several passes over the same space to pick up all the dirt etc, whereas Miele vacuum cleaners I can cover a lot of ground in shorter time and still achieve a better clean than other brands. A warning for those wanting bag-less cleaners, I've tried a few bag-less cleaners (as I wanted to avoid buying bags and such) and I've found them to be not worth the hassle and I am now an advocate for bagged cleaners. Bagged cleaners have the advantage that all the dirt goes into the bag which can be easily disposed of. Bag-less cleaners containers can be fiddly to empty and can retain awful smells if you accidentally hoover up smelly stuff. Good bagged cleaners also have extra filters (not just the bags) and it's convenient enough to replace the filters each time you get a box of bags/filters.

My advice: stick with bagged cleaners, especially Miele brand ones.

I agree with above from @kiwisurfer

We have a Miele Complete C3 Powerline. Really good suction and had it for about 6 years. I use it once a month as the weekly clean is done by my Xiaomi robot vacuum.

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#2742963 12-Jul-2021 12:25

We went from an old "drag around the house" bagless Dyson which lasted us for YEARS, to a newer Dyson stick vac.

I couldn't go back to a corded one now. Got it on special for about $499 or $599 and it was the Animal version which meant more heads and accessories.

Lasts well for our small 3 Bedroom home and does both hard and soft floors equally well.

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#2742969 12-Jul-2021 12:31

I've just recently (within the last three weeks) replaced the battery in our Dyson V8 Animal, and it's running like new. Because the dog is shedding a layer, I'm running the stick vac around the house at least one a day at the moment. Since I've replaced the battery, the Dyson upright hasn't been out of the cupboard.

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#2743150 12-Jul-2021 14:14

Our 12-year-old bagged Miele S5 series (might be an S5780) still sucks as the day we bought it. Definitely worth the $659 we paid for it on one of them HN sales.

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#2743886 14-Jul-2021 08:54

I have to confess I bought the Electrolux I mentioned previously that was $299. Haven't tried it yet. I'm sure if I'm back complaining about it in a few months there'll be lots of well deserved Told You So's.

I also dug out an old Miele S5310 we have that we stopped using after its handle thing fell apart, bought a new handle for about $110 and thats now working as well, so hopefully we've got two, for a while anyway.

Thanks for all the advice. I really tried to listen, but what can I say, money talks (at least in the short term...)

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#2744017 14-Jul-2021 12:44

Bought our Barrel Dyson dc08tss-tbn in Nov 2006 (A$767.00). Apart from a new wand and top & bottom filters in 2019 and a free 2nd hand turbo head 2020, this machine keeps on keeping on. In that price was included an asseccory pack including the pet hair tool. It has definitely paid for itself.

Handsomedan: We went from an old "drag around the house" bagless Dyson which lasted us for YEARS, to a newer Dyson stick vac.

I couldn't go back to a corded one now. Got it on special for about $499 or $599 and it was the Animal version which meant more heads and accessories.

Lasts well for our small 3 Bedroom home and does both hard and soft floors equally well.

Stu: I've just recently (within the last three weeks) replaced the battery in our Dyson V8 Animal, and it's running like new. Because the dog is shedding a layer, I'm running the stick vac around the house at least one a day at the moment. Since I've replaced the battery, the Dyson upright hasn't been out of the cupboard.

Interesting comments. We have always had cats and in 2019 then 2020 was thinking about buying the Dyson V8 Animal but was worried about the battery life between charges. We have a 3 bedroom, passage & lounge/dining area sized house.

EDIT: price

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2744029 14-Jul-2021 13:09

Not that it matters now, but the Miele C3 All-rounder is actually on a really good special at the moment for $449 at Smith's City.

I think it's pretty clear from the various comments that having a couple of different options to cover various scenarios is going to be better than one-to-rule-all. A cordless/bagless/robo model is perfect for the ease of spot or quick cleaning, but also having a decent bagged vacuum for a semi-regular thorough clean that the lesser models might choke on.

With an infant approaching crawling stages, I might have to invest in a cheap cordless vac myself for those "spot" cleans...

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#2744033 14-Jul-2021 13:22

PS: to the previous post: In 2019 we bought the Dyson V7 Trigger to replace the venerable BLACK+DECKER Pd1200 12V Flexi Vac Cordless Dustbuster with powered turbo brush of at least 15 years vinage. The V7 is great in cleaning up the cat litter scatter in the garage, cleaning the car interior, post saw bench use and for all those little jobs, including a quick clean of cat fur off the couch using the Tangle-free turbine tool attachment.

So if we were to replace the above barrel we would seriously look at the Dyson Cyclone V10 animal or what ever the latest Dyson at the time.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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