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SpookyAwol

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#3096238 29-Jun-2023 15:04

I got sick of waiting and upgraded to an Elitedesk G2 mini for $150. Sad they took so long to get back into supply, but the pricing is also getting a bit much

Alphaturkey

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#3096254 29-Jun-2023 16:02

Hadn't ordered from Core Electronics before - but happy to report it shipped out next day.

Prompted by the discussion above, I went looking at other options for very small form factor/power efficient devices appropriate for running "home things" - Plex/HA/whatever else - without turning into an entire rack in a garage that the wife hates.

Eventually settled on a "GK3 Pro" (I don't want to break any advertising/referral rules here, so Google is helpful here) with an Intel N100. They appear to be relatively well reviewed on a youtube video I found (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBL4_4-luI) and more than capable of transcoding multiple streams while consuming very little at idle (and even loaded).

This is getting off topic but needless to say I've gone from 1 undersized Pi to 2 Pis and their Chinese/American cousin thanks to this thread 😂

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#3096257 29-Jun-2023 16:21

timmmay:

Oddly enough it's the little things like this the $100 little computers I don't know much about as I don't do it often. I spend more time on enterprise type areas.

Got some brand new intel NUC11ATKC4 essential with Celeron N5105 for 99€ (~172NZD) each last week in a black week offer. Ok, you have to add (up to 32GB) RAM but it has 4 times the processing power of a RPi4, a housing, a power supply, plenty of enterprise virtualization capabilities (proxmox, docker, esxi, lxc whatever you like), various codecs and a TDP of 15W compared to 7.5W of the RPi4.

(edit: TDP is 15W for the mentioned model)

- NET: FTTH & VDSL, OPNsense, 10G backbone, GWN APs
- SRV: 12 RU HA server cluster, 0.1 PB storage on premise
- IoT: thread, zigbee, tasmota, BidCoS, LoRa, WX suite, IR
- 3D: two 3D printers, 3D scanner, CNC router, laser cutter

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#3096259 29-Jun-2023 16:27

Tinkerisk:

Got some brand new intel NUC11ATKC essential with Celeron N5105 for 99€ (~172NZD) each last week in a black week offer. Ok, you have to add (up to 32GB) RAM but it has 4 times the processing power of a RPi4, a housing, a power supply, plenty of enterprise virtualization capabilities (proxmox, docker, esxi, lxc whatever you like), various codecs and a TDP of 10W compared to 7,5W of the RPi4.

Sounds nice :-) The Pi4 is plenty powerful enough for my little HA instance doing a few other things like web server, Syncthing, AppDaemon (Python coding for HA). It sits at about 9% CPU on average and 1GB of the 4GB RAM used - the rest is disk cache. The only thing I would like is to use a better quality disk, which I could do with HA Yellow if I could be bothered, or via USB. I probably won't bother until something fails.

Otherwise everything else is in AWS, including my cloud backups.

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#3096266 29-Jun-2023 16:49

timmmay:

Sounds nice :-) The Pi4 is plenty powerful enough for my little HA instance doing a few other things like web server, Syncthing, AppDaemon (Python coding for HA). It sits at about 9% CPU on average and 1GB of the 4GB RAM used - the rest is disk cache. The only thing I would like is to use a better quality disk, which I could do with HA Yellow if I could be bothered, or via USB. I probably won't bother until something fails.

Otherwise everything else is in AWS, including my cloud backups.

And that's exactly what an Odroid-M1 (4GB) would do even more economically, even more efficiently and with its built-in M.2 more reliably than any RaspberryPi or HA yellow. And just by adding a HA skyconnect, you have zigbee and matter as well. ;-)

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#3097324 29-Jun-2023 19:16

Tinkerisk:

And that's exactly what an Odroid-M1 (4GB) would do even more economically, even more efficiently and with its built-in M.2 more reliably than any RaspberryPi or HA yellow. And just by adding a HA skyconnect, you have zigbee and matter as well. ;-)

The larger user base, regular updates, and more information online of the Pi and Raspbian is probably worth something. I'm probably more likely to go with a Pi5 when they're released, with a USB SSD drive, M2 or SATA doesn't really matter. The Pi4 with a SD card is fast enough for my fairly modest use case. I could probably get away with a Pi3.

The Odroid sounds like a nice device though, if I had more time available I might get one to play with. The N2+ sounds like it'd be quite a bit faster than the Pi4, so if anyone wanted a good SBC now and was willing to go with a smaller manufacturer (though probably still pretty large) they could be a good option.

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