Apple Watch Series 10 - I held off for this?

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#3281907 13-Sep-2024 21:11

The ability for a runner to start a stopwatch when the start of a race happens - without passing through assorted screens and countdowns - is not a technological or UI challenge though.

It’s pretty shoddy that Apple have yet to find a way to do this outside of the Ultra watch. Similarly stopping a watch on the finish line. I appreciate that runners are a subset of Apple Watch users but that’s very basic functionality. Even I am irked by it, and I am a diehard Apple fan.

However the Ultra - as mentioned previously - won’t work for me, at least until they introduce a smaller size Ultra, anyway. So it’s back to adding ten seconds to the visible time at parkrun as I go round….

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#3281925 14-Sep-2024 07:12

bendud: The ability for a runner to start a stopwatch when the start of a race happens - without passing through assorted screens and countdowns - is not a technological or UI challenge though.

It’s pretty shoddy that Apple have yet to find a way to do this outside of the Ultra watch. Similarly stopping a watch on the finish line.

Finishing is actually fine. You just push the crown and side button simultaneously to pause, then finish the activity using the touch screen after you have cleared the finish chute congestion. It will only count your time up to that final pause.

However the Ultra - as mentioned previously - won’t work for me, at least until they introduce a smaller size Ultra, anyway. So it’s back to adding ten seconds to the visible time at parkrun as I go round….

Yes, I would buy an Ultra if there were a smaller option even if it meant a compromise on battery life. In regards to precise start timing, my workaround is as follows:

About ten seconds before the start gun goes off, start the activity on the watch and then immediately pause using the crown and side button.
Engage the water lock mode. This is important for me as I often encounter bad weather or sea/lake spray at events and don't want to be fiddling with the watch in the field.
Unpause using the crown and side button upon passing the start line.
Pause again upon crossing the finish line.
Finish the activity when convenient.

This approach consistently gives me timing within two seconds of official event timing, and is often accurate down to the second. Unfortunately it's fiddly so the precision start feature would be much better. It's also worth noting that doing it this way results in inflated times when uploading activities to Strava.

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#3281927 14-Sep-2024 07:21

Thanks - and an able demo of how ridiculous the process is currently.

A small Ultra would be a huge advantage, even with less battery (I think it would still be dramatically longer lasting than my s6 which tends to need low power mode by 10pm).

I’m not sure “Tim Apple” is on GZ though 😂

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#3282214 15-Sep-2024 08:03

Apple currently offers the series 10 in two sizes, and the Ultra in one size. I was pondering this last night, and it's occurred to me that it should be the other way around. That would create a lineup as follows:

Series 10 42mm : For people doing casual fitness activities, or for convenience applications like silent phone calls as another poster discussed. Also good for people with very small wrists.
Ultra 45mm : Feature set same as existing Ultra, but a bit smaller with some compromise on battery life as a result. Suitable for people doing anything up to full marathon or half ironman, and who don't want the bulk of a larger watch.
Ultra 49mm : Same as existing. Suitable for ultra marathon or full ironman.

I'm not sure where the SE fits into all this. There appears to be some speculation of the next generation being a cheap plastic version for kids but that doesn't sound very Apple-esque.

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#3282304 15-Sep-2024 13:22

alasta:

Apple currently offers the series 10 in two sizes, and the Ultra in one size. I was pondering this last night, and it's occurred to me that it should be the other way around. That would create a lineup as follows:

Series 10 42mm : For people doing casual fitness activities, or for convenience applications like silent phone calls as another poster discussed. Also good for people with very small wrists.
Ultra 45mm : Feature set same as existing Ultra, but a bit smaller with some compromise on battery life as a result. Suitable for people doing anything up to full marathon or half ironman, and who don't want the bulk of a larger watch.
Ultra 49mm : Same as existing. Suitable for ultra marathon or full ironman.
I'm not sure where the SE fits into all this. There appears to be some speculation of the next generation being a cheap plastic version for kids but that doesn't sound very Apple-esque.

Sign me up for an Ultra 45mm with LTE please. I love my Garmin Fenix but an Ultra 45mm with all the features of the larger Ultra would be a temptation I just couldn't resist.

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#3282371 15-Sep-2024 16:15

alasta:
Apple currently offers the series 10 in two sizes, and the Ultra in one size. I was pondering this last night, and it's occurred to me that it should be the other way around. That would create a lineup as follows:

Series 10 42mm : For people doing casual fitness activities, or for convenience applications like silent phone calls as another poster discussed. Also good for people with very small wrists.

Ultra 45mm : Feature set same as existing Ultra, but a bit smaller with some compromise on battery life as a result. Suitable for people doing anything up to full marathon or half ironman, and who don't want the bulk of a larger watch.

Ultra 49mm : Same as existing. Suitable for ultra marathon or full ironman.

I'm not sure where the SE fits into all this. There appears to be some speculation of the next generation being a cheap plastic version for kids but that doesn't sound very Apple-esque.

Apple aren’t removing what is likely one of their most popular models from the lineup. It would be commercial suicide.

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#3282542 16-Sep-2024 11:53

bendud:

I'm sure DC Rainmaker will have a long and definitive answer to this, if I could ever find it on his site!

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#3285657 24-Sep-2024 08:40

Got 46mm Series 10 Jet Black Aluminium yesterday. Screen size alone makes this a great upgrade from by 44mm Series 6. The difference is very noticeable.

I wasn't sure I was going to like the Black/Blue Nike Sport Loop in person, but it's actually quite nice.

Does anyone know Apple's policy on screen burn-in? After 4 years it was pretty bad on the Series 6. I don't particularly want to disable Always-On in order to minimise it on Series 10 so not sure what to do. Is it covered under warranty? CGA? I'd consider Apple Care if that definitely covered it, but that talks about accidental damage so I'm not sure if even that would cover it.

I haven't found any official policy in regard to burn-in.

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#3286057 25-Sep-2024 10:16

Paul1977:

Got 46mm Series 10 Jet Black Aluminium yesterday. Screen size alone makes this a great upgrade from by 44mm Series 6. The difference is very noticeable.

I wasn't sure I was going to like the Black/Blue Nike Sport Loop in person, but it's actually quite nice.

Does anyone know Apple's policy on screen burn-in? After 4 years it was pretty bad on the Series 6. I don't particularly want to disable Always-On in order to minimise it on Series 10 so not sure what to do. Is it covered under warranty? CGA? I'd consider Apple Care if that definitely covered it, but that talks about accidental damage so I'm not sure if even that would cover it.

I haven't found any official policy in regard to burn-in.

Knowing Apple, it'll be on a case-by-case basis.

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