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redjet

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#154602 1-Nov-2014 20:20
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Thought I'd share my experience with this recent purchase.

I ordered the Dahua IPC-HFW4300S (http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/ipc-hfw4300s-398.html) camera and the Dahua NVR4104-P (http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/nvr410441084116-p-675.html) NVR.

The camera ended up costing NZ$145 shipped and the NVR was NZ$268 shipped.  I'm also using a Western Digital 4TB Purple WD40PURX hard drive which seems to run well so far.  The NVR can handle 4 cameras which I'll be adding over the next few months.

I purchased these items from two separate AliExpress stores: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/202753 & http://www.aliexpress.com/store/809300 - both items arrived approximately two weeks from when I placed the order.

This is the first time I've dabbled with CCTV and it was relatively painless to set everything up.  The NVR has a lot of nice features and the camera has been excellent so far.

The only negative was the dry wall expansion anchors that came with the camera - they didn't work that well so I ended up buying some self drilling anchors from Mitre10 which worked far better.  For an explanation of expansion vs. self drilling anchors, this video helped me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLxQ9aNlrY

I hadn't used AliExpress before so chose merchants with good feedback.  I hope this post helps others who are contemplating ordering from AliExpress or might be looking at Dahua equipment.

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  #1166693 1-Nov-2014 21:46
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Sounds good - I already have Dahua cam, but using the NVR rather than my home server sounds like a good idea. Was the NVR easy to setup? and did you just connect the HDD to the NVR via a drive enclosure? 

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  #1166699 1-Nov-2014 21:54
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looking at the website it has a sata port that you can connect the HDD to

 
 
 
 


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  #1166706 1-Nov-2014 22:41
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NVR 4104P takes an internal HDD.


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  #1166765 2-Nov-2014 08:47
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tieke: Sounds good - I already have Dahua cam, but using the NVR rather than my home server sounds like a good idea. Was the NVR easy to setup? and did you just connect the HDD to the NVR via a drive enclosure? 


It was relatively easy to set up - the hard drive goes inside the NVR.  The NVR manuals and software are ok, but most of the config was done via trial and error. 

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  #1166772 2-Nov-2014 09:32
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Been looking at setting up cameras for a while now. Does anyone have experience with these Dahua cameras and Zoneminder?

I am seeking something which will just work with Zoneminder. I have too many unfinished projects at present, but I wish to install CCTV on a new property in the near future, and would like to test a proof of concept system before then.

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  #1166795 2-Nov-2014 10:14
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Great info!

I have had a 2100 camera running off POE for some time and been pleased with it. My challenge has been trying to find the right software to run with it. Running the supplied PSS tools on PC, but would be keen on a NAS solution (have netgear 314) so I do not need to leave the PC on.

Looked at Sighthound, xprotect, but sounds like the NVR is a good way to go.

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  #1166796 2-Nov-2014 10:15
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tieke: Sounds good - I already have Dahua cam, but using the NVR rather than my home server sounds like a good idea. Was the NVR easy to setup? and did you just connect the HDD to the NVR via a drive enclosure? 


What solution did you use on your home server?

 
 
 
 


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  #1166819 2-Nov-2014 11:26
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 What solution did you use on your home server?

I've got a Windows box that is left on 24/7 for NPVR, mail etc, so put Blue Iris on it for the IP Cameras.  Does work well, but uses quite a bit of processing power once you have a few cameras connected and doing motion-sensing on each one. Been meaning to separate that off to an NVR and use hibernation a bit more on the Windows box for a while - have ordered the Dahua 4108 and will see how it goes.

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  #1166823 2-Nov-2014 11:31
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Using a NVR or a NAS is a vastly superior solution to using a software based solution.



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  #1166906 2-Nov-2014 14:53
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sbiddle: Using a NVR or a NAS is a vastly superior solution to using a software based solution.


Yes do agree. The NVR software on my readynas 314 is not that great from a features point of view when comparing price with the likes of Sighthound and xprotect. Have not looked at BlueIris.

Synology/Qnap may be better....but not sure.

Would be good if they offered an installer for a NAS.

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  #1166932 2-Nov-2014 15:53
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I thought with IP cameras the camera did the motion sensing and sent an event down to the DVR when it detected motion? Shouldnt be any CPU needed beyond the usual keeping a buffer of video on disk to keep incase of an event.

I have 2 of those same dahua cameras to get around to installing sometime. Had a look at quite a few while I was in china but language and not being there long meant that I didnt end up bringing anything back with me.




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  #1166935 2-Nov-2014 15:56
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richms: I thought with IP cameras the camera did the motion sensing and sent an event down to the DVR when it detected motion? Shouldnt be any CPU needed beyond the usual keeping a buffer of video on disk to keep incase of an event.


It depends. ONVIF cameras do, but I don't know if all versions of the specifications have this, or all cameras implement it. If no motion detection is supported, the software must decode every stream and look for motion, which is computationally quite expensive.


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  #1166942 2-Nov-2014 16:19
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Been looking at the Dahua equipment some more, and it looks like it is quite reasonably priced, compared to going down the Synology NAS route. Roughly the same price as a cheap NAS for the 8-port version sans PoE, without the need to buy extra camera licences.

Were you able to find any videos or demos of the Dahua NVR4104-P interface before purchasing?

Some of the software out there is tricky to use, and not cheap, but it is also has numerous features which have always put me off looking at hardware solutions which seemed quite limited in comparison. I am assuming the Dahua offers a Web-based and possibly app-based interface, but I'd like to know what I can do with the equipment.

The other obvious question is, what is the video quality like? Any chance you could post some sample videos?

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  #1166961 2-Nov-2014 16:36
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would people buy a PoE DVR or would they buy a cheap PoE switch and put it between the cameras and the DVR?

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  #1166962 2-Nov-2014 16:37
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I bought a large used POE switch off trademe. All the ports are only 100 meg so no use for things like wifi APs but great for camera. Has vlans etc too, so thats 24 cameras I can power up off it, so long as the gig uplink port can take it which it should since the cameras top out at 8 megabit for the main stream and I would have at most 2 connections to each camera at once.




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