A Smart Bed

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Shimmer

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Topic # 165829 21-Feb-2015 22:14

Ok this looks way cool.

A bed cover that turns your bed into a smart bed. It's another crowd funded project but has already well and truly blown its $100k original target. Would be good if it reached the $1m mark as would prefer cloudless integration to my other devices but am sure I can snoop traffic and attempt to intercept. At its simplest it's a dual zone electric blanket with a bunch of sensors. It detects breathing and heart rate. I'm hoping I can integrate it with the rest of my Home Automation system and use it as an effective occupancy detector.

Supports 110-240v and ships to Au/NZ.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/luna-turn-your-bed-into-a-smartbed/x/9958681

Fundraising goal ends next thur.

I've taken the plunge...will see how it pans out

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Reply # 1243978 22-Feb-2015 00:37

That actually looks pretty cool.

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Reply # 1243979 22-Feb-2015 00:49

Saw something like this on shark tank just recently. The sharks didn't like it that much lol.

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Reply # 1243980 22-Feb-2015 00:59

alas ... no super king :(

Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.

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Reply # 1243986 22-Feb-2015 07:37

With such a smart video I would have expected them to show an expensive Agilent oscilloscope, not Rigol.

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Reply # 1262293 19-Mar-2015 12:00

looks pretty cool

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Reply # 1262380 19-Mar-2015 13:05

joker97: alas ... no super king :(

According to bedpost nz (http://www.bedpost.co.nz/Bed-Sizes/)

NZ super king is 183 x 203cm

According to their site, (US) King size is 193 cm × 203 cm.

So, our Super King is less than the US normal King size?

On the funding site

"For European sizes we recommend you select an option with a little less fabric (given that our side fabric will stretch), or if your mattress is taller than usual you can select the size immediately above it to have some extra fabric you can just tuck under the mattress."

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Reply # 1263561 19-Mar-2015 17:03

dolsen:
joker97: alas ... no super king :(

According to bedpost nz (http://www.bedpost.co.nz/Bed-Sizes/)

NZ super king is 183 x 203cm

According to their site, (US) King size is 193 cm × 203 cm.

So, our Super King is less than the US normal King size?

On the funding site

"For European sizes we recommend you select an option with a little less fabric (given that our side fabric will stretch), or if your mattress is taller than usual you can select the size immediately above it to have some extra fabric you can just tuck under the mattress."

Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_size

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Shimmer

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Reply # 1717383 8-Feb-2017 20:24

2 years on and I now have my smart Mattress cover and have been using it for 2 weeks. They've had a name change so it's gone from Luna to Eightsleep. Quality of the cover and device itself is good, there is only one button externally used for pairing (no buttons to actually control the device everything is done via wifi). Button has a good feel and feels sturdy. The cover you can feel the wires if you feel carefully, but neither my wife or I notice it on the bed (nothing digging into your back)

On to the problems, first one. Wifi. This device is 802.11b so many modern Wifi Access points need to be configured to enable legacy support before it will work. I spent days trying to work out why it wouldn't connect to my Ubiquiti Wifi devices before I figured that one out. Next one, everything is via Wifi . If wifi is down you can't control your bed.

Next one is the IFTTT integration. This is really lacking, but feedback from their support team sounds like they are actively working on providing better triggers. While you can control the heating elements, there are no triggers available based on occupancy (e.g. if both people go to bed, fire a turn off everything command to your house). The only triggers are based on the alarm on the Mobile App or a Night Mode button again on the Mobile App. As mentioned you can at least control the warming element so have already integrated mine with Alexa.

The mobile app itself (only tested Android version) is a little buggy at the mo and occasionally you have to force quit the app and reopen before it will work. In terms of accuracy of the sleep data it feels pretty accurate. It will give you a breakdown across the night, showing what time you went to bed, time you went to sleep, what time you woke up, what time you got up, how much and when you were in light sleep vs deep sleep, breathing rate across the night (could have fun with that if they expose that as an IFTTT trigger), room temp, bed temp. You get a daily, weekly monthly summary.

verdict - impressed so far, WAF high but really looking forward to more IFTTT functionality and local API being exposed.

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Reply # 1718398 10-Feb-2017 18:17

Oriphix: That actually looks pretty cool.

What problem is it solving though? It's a couple of sensors that connect to your phone. Once you've got over the novelty of being able to check when you got out of bed via your phone (rather than the more traditional way of looking at your clock or watch when you get up, or just knowing that your alarm gets you up at x o'clock), what do you do with it?

I mean, it's a cool gadget, but what do you do with it?

Shimmer

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Reply # 1718603 11-Feb-2017 11:51

neb: I mean, it's a cool gadget, but what do you do with it?

It's the product of a fit bit getting hell drunk and having unprotected sex with an electric blanket.

On the purely functional side it's an internet connected bed warmer with dual zones that I can connect to my existing home automation so that I can set the temp of my bed to a desired level regardless of ambient room temp and it will be done automatically. My wife prefers hers warmer which can be done independently. For this purpose it performs extremely well. Slapping a zwave/wemo switch on a traditional elecy blankey will not provide the same.

Then there is sleep metrics, just like a fit bit tells you how your workout has been this tells you about quality of sleep. Do you need to know? just like a fit bit no, but it is interesting info and has made me more conscious about the time I spent before going to sleep. ie go to bed at 10 but chuck on tele and not get to sleep til 11:45. To your point you can look at your clock when you go to bed, but you are unlikely to write it down, and you wont be writing down what time you actually fell asleep.

Occupancy detection is the main one i'm waiting for to fire off home automation events. Someone has already built a plugin for Smartthings (I don't use this) through capturing the available API calls through the mob app. If they don't make it available via IFTTT or direct API soon I'll consider porting for my own purposes.

Gadgets don't need a purpose :)

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Reply # 1718664 11-Feb-2017 14:44

Shimmer:
neb: I mean, it's a cool gadget, but what do you do with it?

On the purely functional side it's an internet connected bed warmer with dual zones that I can connect to my existing home automation so that I can set the temp of my bed to a desired level regardless of ambient room temp and it will be done automatically. My wife prefers hers warmer which can be done independently. For this purpose it performs extremely well. Slapping a zwave/wemo switch on a traditional elecy blankey will not provide the same.

Can you actually do that though? From reading the description it's not obvious that there's any control element, it's purely a couple of sensors. So something you could do with an Arduino.