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Topic # 224071 1-Nov-2017 10:03
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Nest is making the following products available in New Zealand:

 

  • Nest Protect
  • Nest Cam Indoor
  • Nest Cam Outdoor
  • Nest Cam IQ Indoor
  • Nest Aware

No thermostat in the local lineup. Available via retail, online or through Meridian Energy.

 

 





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  Reply # 1893512 1-Nov-2017 10:29
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Boo.  Thermostat or GTFO





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  Reply # 1893867 1-Nov-2017 21:11
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These products sound pretty cool, but the security cameras must consume a lot of broadband traffic if they are constantly recording and uploading footage. From a brief look at the web site it wasn't clear to me whether it is possible to configure them so that they only record when motion is detected.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1893939 1-Nov-2017 22:05
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I've spent months trying to talk the Mrs into a $190 smoke detector... I scored outdoor cameras because of the dogs, I've managed 14 Hue lights by starting on the cheaper Osram product that failed, I've managed a Google Home and now 2 Minis (because one was delivered late), I got away with the Ring doorbell because of ebay deliveries, I've updated the Harmony remote to Hub and Companion (she hates touchscreen remotes), the Sony 4K TV, the Yamaha AVR, the FetchTV... Nearly even pulled off a z-wave controller and in-wall switch for a kitchen flouro...

 

BUT $190 on a smoke detector is Nucking Futs according to her. :(


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  Reply # 1893992 2-Nov-2017 01:23
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Looking at their website, the Nest Outdoor has its power cable coming out of the outside front of the camera. What would prevent the burglar from hiding his face at the beginning (assuming they see the camera a mile away) then cutting that wire and continue on what they were doing?




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  Reply # 1893999 2-Nov-2017 06:12
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I’d agree with your wife. The only reason I’d spend more than $20 on a smoke detector is for hard wired ones to my alarm.




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  Reply # 1894044 2-Nov-2017 09:12
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No surprises that the thermostat is not sold locally. As very few NZ houses have central heating. And even fewer again have central heating that uses 24V control wiring.

It would be a support nightmare trying to sell nest thermostats in NZ.





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  Reply # 1894339 2-Nov-2017 17:16
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Nice to know that Nest have finally launched in New Zealand and PBTech even have stock of some of their products.

 

Already got two Nest smoke alarms. Both are the wired variety (not the battery only version) and I had to order them from Amazon.co.uk to be sure that they would work on 240volts. Having them glowing in the dark providING enough light to find the bathroom in the middel of the night is a luxury that money can't buy.

 

Hopefully, some of the other home automation products like Amazon Alexa & Samsung Smartthings will be available soon too.  


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  Reply # 1894340 2-Nov-2017 17:19
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rogercruse:

 

Nice to know that Nest have finally launched in New Zealand and PBTech even have stock of some of their products.

 

Already got two Nest smoke alarms. Both are the wired variety (not the battery only version) and I had to order them from Amazon.co.uk to be sure that they would work on 240volts. Having them glowing in the dark providING enough light to find the bathroom in the middel of the night is a luxury that money can't buy.

 

Hopefully, some of the other home automation products like Amazon Alexa & Samsung Smartthings will be available soon too.  

 

 

 

 

The the smoke alarms comply with current NZ standards though, with a hush button etc? I recall that was a concern some people mentioned previously


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blakamin:

 

BUT $190 on a smoke detector is Nucking Futs according to her. :(

 

 

She's not wrong! laughing


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  Reply # 1929932 5-Jan-2018 16:16
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I've been using a US Nest for years. No problems.


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  Reply # 1929959 5-Jan-2018 16:30
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blakamin:

 

BUT $190 on a smoke detector is Nucking Futs according to her. :(

 

 

Most people think that way, unfortunately. (Sold smoke detectors and other safety products for more than a decade, so know a thing or two about that).

 

Think about the other things you use money on, you mentioned a few of them. What is expensive is usually a relative thing. My take on it: The most important safety equipment you will ever (hopefully for you) buy, is a smoke detector. They are there to wake you up and get you out of the house if a fire starts in the night, and it is literally a life insurance.

 

Most people buy the cheapest smoke detector they can find. and a lot of them never change the battery in the one they have bought - or end up taking it down because they get false alarms from the ionization smoke alarm all the time. And they don't realise that the ionization smoke detector can't warn you of a smouldering fire that could kill you with poisonous gasses.

 

With that in mind $190 doesn't seem like a lot for a smoke detector that will talk to the other smoke detectors in the house, and tell you where in your house the fire has been detected. All without a lot of false alarms and (with the wired version) without having to make sure the battery is changed as often as with a regular battery powered smoke detector.

 

Even if you can't afford a $190 smoke alarm like the Nest, getting good quality smoke alarms like the Cavius ones is a good way to stay protected, and if you have a large house or several levels, having wireless interconnected smoke detectors will make you a lot safer.

 

 

 

Rant over. Sorry, just a little trigger here ;)





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  Reply # 1929961 5-Jan-2018 16:38
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Just a follow up:

 

The Cavius wireless smoke detector (photoelectric) is $65 at Bunnings and Mitre10. I see Mitre10 is 50 cents more expensive, so I guess there is a chance of a 15% discount if you go to Mitre10 and show them the Bunnings price.

 

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Cavius wireless smoke detector @ Mitre10
Cavius wireless smoke detector @ Bunnings

 

 

 

Disclaimer: I am part owner of the Norwegian importer/distributor of the Cavius smoke detectors. I get no money from any units sold outside of Norway, so don't have a direct conflict of interest. But thought I should mention it for full transparency.





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  Reply # 1930984 5-Jan-2018 18:56
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blakamin:

 

I've spent months trying to talk the Mrs into a $190 smoke detector... I scored outdoor cameras because of the dogs, I've managed 14 Hue lights by starting on the cheaper Osram product that failed, I've managed a Google Home and now 2 Minis (because one was delivered late), I got away with the Ring doorbell because of ebay deliveries, I've updated the Harmony remote to Hub and Companion (she hates touchscreen remotes), the Sony 4K TV, the Yamaha AVR, the FetchTV... Nearly even pulled off a z-wave controller and in-wall switch for a kitchen flouro...

 

BUT $190 on a smoke detector is Nucking Futs according to her. :(

 

 

 

 

The struggle truly is real.


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  Reply # 1931003 5-Jan-2018 19:31
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Think about the other things you use money on, you mentioned a few of them. What is expensive is usually a relative thing. My take on it: The most important safety equipment you will ever (hopefully for you) buy, is a smoke detector. They are there to wake you up and get you out of the house if a fire starts in the night, and it is literally a life insurance.

 

 

 

 

Half the reason she doesn't want to spend $$$ on a smoke alarm is the fact our house has 7 already. 3 of which are new 10 year products. (1 in every bedroom, 1 in hallway, 1 in lounge, 1 in family room and one in the  kitchen. 3brm 120sqm house)

 

 

 

Australia has had smoke alarm rules in rentals for years (we rented this place before we bought it).

 

 

 

You can rant to us all you want, still not buying a $170 smoke alarm.


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  Reply # 1931004 5-Jan-2018 19:33
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Dunnersfella:

 

blakamin:

 

I've spent months trying to talk the Mrs into a $190 smoke detector... I scored outdoor cameras because of the dogs, I've managed 14 Hue lights by starting on the cheaper Osram product that failed, I've managed a Google Home and now 2 Minis (because one was delivered late), I got away with the Ring doorbell because of ebay deliveries, I've updated the Harmony remote to Hub and Companion (she hates touchscreen remotes), the Sony 4K TV, the Yamaha AVR, the FetchTV... Nearly even pulled off a z-wave controller and in-wall switch for a kitchen flouro...

 

BUT $190 on a smoke detector is Nucking Futs according to her. :(

 

 

 

 

The struggle truly is real.

 

 

 

 

That's what my wallet says too!

 

 

 

Now up to 3 minis and 2 GHs, and BT tap timers for irrigation.


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