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# 251029 5-Jun-2019 16:48
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Just saw a tweet about this and I wonder if anyone has gone down the "more legal" DIY switches and outlets path of purchasing something from AU rather than China?

 

https://www.mitre10.com.au/arteor-trade-smart-starter-kit

 

Yes they are in Australia but in theory they should be able to supply a SDoC to make them legal in NZ.

 

Relatively pricey, but if your house burns down your insurance would probably cover you.






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  # 2252317 5-Jun-2019 19:46
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For that money I’d rather zwave, and the. I don’t have to use their faux techno switches that don’t match the rest of the house. Also zwave “mesh” is much more effective than zigbee. Though there are some repeating devices (normally powered ones)




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  # 2252799 6-Jun-2019 10:01
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Tend to agree about the "space age" look. What's wrong with taking the stealth approach?

 

What I'd really like is a wired-in replacement with a normal rocker switch (not push button) that can turn off Hue bulbs on/off without breaking the circuit.

 

Dimmer function optional and dependent on location. The main aim is to stop family/guests messing with my lights because you just can't stop 'em from using the wall switches.

 

Zigbee seems like a sensible decision for a mainstream product and compatibility with Hue and Echo Plus/Show.           


 
 
 
 


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  # 2252807 6-Jun-2019 10:10
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evilengineer:

 

Tend to agree about the "space age" look. What's wrong with taking the stealth approach?

 

What I'd really like is a wired-in replacement with a normal rocker switch (not push button) that can turn off Hue bulbs on/off without breaking the circuit.

 

Dimmer function optional and dependent on location. The main aim is to stop family/guests messing with my lights because you just can't stop 'em from using the wall switches.

 

Zigbee seems like a sensible decision for a mainstream product and compatibility with Hue and Echo Plus/Show.           

 

 

Hue for a household isn't a great solution as you've identified, the lightbulb is independent from the switch. 

 

Either make the switch smart (which means you've normally got a jetsons looking wall switch), or put something behind it, ie a zwave relay (these work well), a zigbee equivalent (if exists, I've not seen one), or start getting products like the shelly1, sonoff certified in nz as they can be loaded behind a switch and use wifi.





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  # 2252824 6-Jun-2019 10:50
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Light switches? Pfft that’s so last year

https://www.pdl.co.nz/Trade/Ranges/Products/Smart-Homes-and-Buildings/SmartTouch

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  # 2252896 6-Jun-2019 11:58
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davidcole:

 

Hue for a household isn't a great solution as you've identified, the lightbulb is independent from the switch. 

 

Either make the switch smart (which means you've normally got a jetsons looking wall switch), or put something behind it, ie a zwave relay (these work well), a zigbee equivalent (if exists, I've not seen one), or start getting products like the shelly1, sonoff certified in nz as they can be loaded behind a switch and use wifi.

 

 

But Philips want you to buy more Hue lights.

 

One smart switch controlling three dumb bulbs isn't as good as three smart bulbs! 😀

 

Seriously though, what's stopping PDL making a 600 series switch with a Hue compatible zigbee controller built in?  


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  # 2252904 6-Jun-2019 12:08
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evilengineer:

 

davidcole:

 

Hue for a household isn't a great solution as you've identified, the lightbulb is independent from the switch. 

 

Either make the switch smart (which means you've normally got a jetsons looking wall switch), or put something behind it, ie a zwave relay (these work well), a zigbee equivalent (if exists, I've not seen one), or start getting products like the shelly1, sonoff certified in nz as they can be loaded behind a switch and use wifi.

 

 

But Philips want you to buy more Hue lights.

 

One smart switch controlling three dumb bulbs isn't as good as three smart bulbs! 😀

 

Seriously though, what's stopping PDL making a 600 series switch with a Hue compatible zigbee controller built in?  

 

 

Nothing, but they already have a zwave product - https://www.pdl.co.nz/Home-Owner/Products/Products/Smart-Home/Smart-Home-Solutions/Nero-by-Environexus   which is essentially rebadged aeotec gear (and really expensive in comparison)





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  # 2252907 6-Jun-2019 12:10
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MadEngineer: Light switches? Pfft that’s so last year

https://www.pdl.co.nz/Trade/Ranges/Products/Smart-Homes-and-Buildings/SmartTouch

 

 

 

 

I should just be able to think and the light should know I want it turned on

 

 





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  # 2252984 6-Jun-2019 13:03
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davidcole:

 

MadEngineer: Light switches? Pfft that’s so last year

https://www.pdl.co.nz/Trade/Ranges/Products/Smart-Homes-and-Buildings/SmartTouch

 

 

I should just be able to think and the light should know I want it turned on

 

 

If it were truly smart, it would turn on before you realised you needed it......


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  # 2252988 6-Jun-2019 13:14
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huckster:

 

davidcole:

 

MadEngineer: Light switches? Pfft that’s so last year

https://www.pdl.co.nz/Trade/Ranges/Products/Smart-Homes-and-Buildings/SmartTouch

 

 

I should just be able to think and the light should know I want it turned on

 

 

If it were truly smart, it would turn on before you realised you needed it......

 

 

And THIS is why we need skynet....





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  # 2253014 6-Jun-2019 13:56
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Just imagine what shady shenanigans Google/Amazon/Facebook would be getting up to if they could read your thoughts!  


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  # 2265698 27-Jun-2019 12:06
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Does anyone stock the HPM product yet? 


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