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#273009 30-Jul-2020 13:39
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I'm looking for a decent PoE powered video doorbell, that can also use ethernet for it's connectivity.

 

The Ring Elite meets the criteria, but is very pricey.

 

Can anyone recommend a good alternative?

 

Thanks





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  #2531367 30-Jul-2020 13:46
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I got lucky on ebay and got a brand new Axis A8207-VE off a Axis dealer that had gone under and got it for less than half the price what they sell for. Have a look on ebay and see if you can find a good price for Axis A8207-VE or Axis A8105-E.

 

 

For a good value for $$ PoE doorbell then Dahua VTO2202F-P




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  #2531370 30-Jul-2020 13:50
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Would Wyze cam outdoor work for you? Not exactly what you are after but you can respond in real time and set up alerts etc. https://wyze.com/wyze-cam-outdoor.html

 
 
 
 




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  #2531416 30-Jul-2020 14:47
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billgates: I got lucky on ebay and got a brand new Axis A8207-VE off a Axis dealer that had gone under and got it for less than half the price what they sell for. Have a look on ebay and see if you can find a good price for Axis A8207-VE or Axis A8105-E. For a good value for $$ PoE doorbell then Dahua VTO2202F-P

 

@billgates even at half price that's still pretty expensive!

 

I'll look into the Dahua one, do you know of any NZ based vendors who sell them (and have pricing listed on their website)?




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  #2531417 30-Jul-2020 14:48
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MrAmerica: Would Wyze cam outdoor work for you? Not exactly what you are after but you can respond in real time and set up alerts etc. https://wyze.com/wyze-cam-outdoor.html

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but that wouldn't work very well for us.


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  #2531419 30-Jul-2020 14:50
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@Paul1977 I can link couple of reliable sellers on Aliexpress for the Dahua one but the only NZ seller I see from quick google search is below. Looks like you need a trade account but you can always send them an email. I see in Australia they are sold for AUD$400 so I expect you should not have to pay more than NZD$500 locally.

 

 

https://www.itplus.co.nz/products/dahua-dh-vto2202f-p/

 

 





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  #2531421 30-Jul-2020 14:52
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billgates: @Paul1977 I can link couple of reliable sellers on Aliexpress for the Dahua one but the only NZ seller I see from quick google search is below. Looks like you need a trade account but you can always send them an email. I see in Australia they are sold for AUD$400 so I expect you should not have to pay more than NZD$500 locally. https://www.itplus.co.nz/products/dahua-dh-vto2202f-p/

 

@billgates some links to reliable sellers on Aliexpress would be great, you can PM me if you like.


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  #2531424 30-Jul-2020 14:57
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@Paul1977 Below are the links for PoE intercom only and PoE Intercom with full kit.

 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000504853239.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.3.4c3e6532aIttwI&pvid=f4a40b8d-818a-4990-87e7-e085837d9df4&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.146401.0%2Cpvid%3Af4a40b8d-818a-4990-87e7-e085837d9df4%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%230%23131923%2320_668%23808%234093%23805_668%23888%233325%2314_668%232846%238111%23454_668%232717%237564%23690_668%233164%239976%23207&aff_platform=portals-tool&sk=_dVgP5cA&aff_trace_key=921d5caa2f274bd1ba7a75b924ab432e-1596077727374-06056-_dVgP5cA&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.146401.0&scm-url=1007.13339.146401.0&scm_id=1007.13339.146401.0&terminal_id=7d6befe75f234daba4bd69338638c5dd&tmLog=new_Detail&aff_request_id=921d5caa2f274bd1ba7a75b924ab432e-1596077727374-06056-_dVgP5cA

 

 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001123036816.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.6f3c3ae7SYd1HS&aff_platform=portals-tool&sk=_d8fcyME&aff_trace_key=fe42f75e9e4a4e91aca99c494a5f9760-1596077722842-06865-_d8fcyME&terminal_id=7d6befe75f234daba4bd69338638c5dd&tmLog=new_Detail&aff_request_id=fe42f75e9e4a4e91aca99c494a5f9760-1596077722842-06865-_d8fcyME

 

 

 





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  #2531909 31-Jul-2020 10:47
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I don't know that nay of the available PoE options are going to be suitable because I think we really need a corner kit for mounting.

 

So here's a question: can you power a standard video doorbell (like the most of the Ring range) which runs on 12-24VAC from a PoE cable? Can you just connect the appropriate wires from the Cat6 for just power?

 

I have a Ubiquiti switch which can output passive 24V as well as the regular 802.af/at. Is passive 24V PoE AC or DC?

 

Rather than having the electrician run standard doorbell power, I'm wondering if there is a way I can use the already provisioned network cabling?


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  #2532034 31-Jul-2020 12:29
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Yes, but it requires a largish device to do it.  If you can hide it in the wall could be a good option.

 

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/5v-micro-usb-poe-splitter/p/YN8416




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  #2532161 31-Jul-2020 14:53
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itxtme:

 

Yes, but it requires a largish device to do it.  If you can hide it in the wall could be a good option.

 

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/5v-micro-usb-poe-splitter/p/YN8416

 

 

Thanks, but that wouldn't work. It outputs 5V DC, where I need 24V AC.

 

After looking into it, I believe PoE is all DC so I don't think what I want is possible.

 

Should be able to get a transformer put in so I can send 24V AC down the CAT6 cable.


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  #2532317 31-Jul-2020 18:34
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There's dahua intercoms available in nz



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  #2533553 3-Aug-2020 09:37
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Ended up going for a Ring Pro.

 

Bit annoying since it relies on wifi rather than Ethernet and requires a 24VAC transformer to power it. At least the 24VAC can then be sent down the existing CAT6.

 

The Ring Elite would have been much better if it came in the same form factor as the Pro. But the Elite only has a flush mount option which just wasn't going to work as I need to angle it so required a corner kit.

 

Had to rule out the Dahua PoE one for the same reason - no corner kit (also a little ugly).

 

At least the Ring Pro it leaves me with CAT6 cabling in place, and only a couple of small holes in the brick if I want to upgrade down the track if a better option becomes available.


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  #2533573 3-Aug-2020 10:26
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Not sure if this is an option https://infronttech.com.au/futuro-components/1140-futuro-intercom-cz4ab-angle-mount-bracket-for-futuro-cz4-door-station-camera.html either for the brand designed for or modified to fit a brand you prefer.




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  #2533593 3-Aug-2020 11:02
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Yoban:

 

Not sure if this is an option https://infronttech.com.au/futuro-components/1140-futuro-intercom-cz4ab-angle-mount-bracket-for-futuro-cz4-door-station-camera.html either for the brand designed for or modified to fit a brand you prefer.

 

 

Something like that might work, but I don't think I could know for sure without ordering everything. And knowing my luck it wouldn't work.

 

Anyway, I've ordered the Ring Pro now and I'm sure it will be fine.


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