Raspberry Pi 5 announced!

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#309213 29-Sep-2023 07:57

The next generation of the Rasbperry Pi is out of the oven, and cooling on the windowsill.

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

Initial impressions look like a good revision on a classic, but not an amazing leap forward/ahead of some of the competitors that gained popularity during the shortage.

Now to see if they can maintain stock through the initial rush to buy…

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#3136215 29-Sep-2023 08:00

Saw that last night. Waiting for PB to offer pre-orders.
Needs a new case, new power supply.

2-3x performance increase but otherwise very similar!

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#3136289 29-Sep-2023 09:14

The most exciting thing about the announcement is it might actually be available.

When I was interested in buying a Pi 4 it was impossible.

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#3136294 29-Sep-2023 09:21

Looks like a nice evolution of the Pi series. 2X faster, simpler access to NVME drives (mine goes via USB), explicit support for cooling. I won't upgrade my Pi4's running Home Assistant and other bits and pieces as they work perfectly, but it could make desktops on R.Pi practical - the Pi4 worked but was quite slow.

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#3136322 29-Sep-2023 09:43

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

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#3136404 29-Sep-2023 10:51

Did a preorder from Pi hut last night as soon as I saw it was available while out at curry night. Only let me order 1 so getting one of each and a couple of powerbricks for them as they seem to support up to 5A over USB C which is a welcome increase and should hopefully help with plugging in drives to the pi.

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#3136446 29-Sep-2023 11:52

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

Dual usable 4k output will make it better for a couple of signage things that I want to deploy.

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#3136451 29-Sep-2023 11:55

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

I have a bunch of them sitting folding proteins. If I upgraded they would work faster. But .... I suspect they will soon be obsolete, with the strides AI has made protein folding.

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#3136503 29-Sep-2023 12:39

Great news, I was opnly expecting it next year.

Was hoping for that 16GB of RAM though... But that will come soon as the Pi will certainly support it.

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#3136509 29-Sep-2023 12:57

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

Bolding is me wanting to highlight the bit I wish to address.

I think this the first Pi that could genuinely be used as a desktop. Whilst today the Pi is great for teaching embedded devices and connecting up hardware it falls down a bit on a true developer experience. This will be a great way to get kids into programming. I liken it to the original home PCs (think ZX Spectrum, Commodore etc). They're cheap enough, and powerful enough, that you can start to build things like Kubernetes clusters, Docker swarm clusters if you want.

The Pi 4/400 showed that promise but I really think the extra horsepower will make these a much more viable proposition. OK many children today need a PC for school. That is not all and certainly many still need to loan ones from their school. $100 would be a much more attractive proposition.

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#3136520 29-Sep-2023 13:13

Looks great!

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#3136539 29-Sep-2023 13:36

richms:

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

Dual usable 4k output will make it better for a couple of signage things that I want to deploy.

Now you're talking. Most of my work is on remote desktops of some sort, so minimal local compute power is required, but definitely need multiple monitors.

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#3136543 29-Sep-2023 13:39

nzkc:

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

Bolding is me wanting to highlight the bit I wish to address.

I think this the first Pi that could genuinely be used as a desktop. Whilst today the Pi is great for teaching embedded devices and connecting up hardware it falls down a bit on a true developer experience. This will be a great way to get kids into programming. I liken it to the original home PCs (think ZX Spectrum, Commodore etc). They're cheap enough, and powerful enough, that you can start to build things like Kubernetes clusters, Docker swarm clusters if you want.

The Pi 4/400 showed that promise but I really think the extra horsepower will make these a much more viable proposition. OK many children today need a PC for school. That is not all and certainly many still need to loan ones from their school. $100 would be a much more attractive proposition.

Yep, and richms pointed out the dual display outputs!

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#3136604 29-Sep-2023 15:39

johno1234:

Are people going to use this for something new? For the things I've always considered a pi4 for, the performance has been more than enough - networking devices like pi-hole, home automation, IOT, serving and streaming etc. What opportunities does a faster but more expensive and power hungry device open?

I was kind of hoping for a slightly faster but smaller and more power efficient device for embedded use.

I was hoping to use this as a transcoding node, but it still to low powered. 4k h264 around 4-5 fps. havent seen hevc.

honestly this upgrade seems very weak IMO. like yay, new pi nice. but eh, was hoping for a much bigger leap over the pi4. esp if we have to wait 4 years or more for the pi6

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#3136614 29-Sep-2023 15:58

Made me go find my old 3b in the junk box, download latest pi os, flash the sd, boot it up, install pi-hole, export (teleport) the pi-hole settings off my pi4 and swap them. So easy and the pi4 was wasted just running pi-hole.

What amazes me is how crisp that old pi3 is for a cheap low power, low memory device. It’s still very useable.

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#3137145 30-Sep-2023 19:42

Nice, I even got a reservation option for delivery at 23rd of October from my dealer. Maybe I'll order one to try out this PCIe connector - it's really interesting for me.

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