Apply for job, then get the full job description?

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kingdragonfly

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#233590 23-Apr-2018 13:01

This ad strikes me as odd:

"Senior .Net Full Stack Developer in an Agile & TDD
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Established & very successful organisation without the corporate brand
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This is your chance to join a newly forming team to offer a product to a new global market.
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Please apply today to learn more & view the full job description."

It sounds like the hiring company is trying to hide a project.

Either that or a recruiter advertising non-existent positions, so they can get you CV on file for future positions.

Strike me as odd

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1606092128

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#2001078 23-Apr-2018 13:09

Not out of the ordinary at all. Most recruiters will have something in their ad along the lines of "developers wanted, lots of opportunities" if they just want expressions of interest. This one sounds like a real job, and yeah it's not uncommon to get the PD after applying. I don't like it myself, personally I'd like to review a PD before deciding to apply.

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#2001080 23-Apr-2018 13:15

Not always. I am not defending the merits of this one way or another but two corporates that I have worked with have always declined to put the full JD into the job ad but instead invited applications on the basis of the ad. When you are accepted for an interview, you are then given a JD. The idea behind this approach was to stop people from simply tailoring their CVs to fit in with the buzzwords etc on the JD and to allow people's understanding or perception of what they felt they could bring to the role to shine through more authentically. When that worked well, it worked really well. But you do end up attracting some totally stupid applicants who fundamentally misinterpret the job ads.

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#2001082 23-Apr-2018 13:16

They are fishing for CV's for their database. Seeing it more and more.

This kind of thing bugs the snot out of me, it's like when people refuse to give you an idea of the salary range and say things like "we can talk about that in the interview" or "we will forward that info on if you make it to the next stage".... NO, you will tell me now so we are not wasting each others time with interviews and then having you try and low ball me.

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#2001085 23-Apr-2018 13:21

Unfortunately sometimes you have to register with a recruiter just to see the details of a vacancy.

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#2001103 23-Apr-2018 14:06

What is "without corporate branding"?

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#2001207 23-Apr-2018 16:18

Seen that kind of thing. Sometimes a company wants to hire people for some new initiative without alerting the opposition that the game is about to change. "... join a newly forming team to offer a product to a new global market" suggests it could be this. It could be a really interesting position, or it could be bleugh.

But it does mean that job-seekers are put to more work, in that people who don't meet the hidden criteria apply for the job.

And yes, recruitment places put vague ads like that out so that they have a bunch of people on the books to present to employers some time in the future.

If I was looking for that kind of work, I'd apply. I wouldn't put a lot of effort into it though. And if it was an agency I'd want the company name before I did anything else.