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lduncan
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  #85862 8-Sep-2007 17:30
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Yes. I'm the Director.

I have an open iPhone with scope and protocol analyser ready to reverse the iphonesimfree unlock (much like a lot of other engineers around the world I suspect). It should be relatively trivial to reverse, as the way into the baseband is just a serial port.

That's why iphonesimfree are releasing it the way they are. They want to maximise their profit, they know the method should be reversed within a matter of hours of it being publicly released, hence the 500 license minimum, and their reseller approach.

Layton



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  #85863 8-Sep-2007 17:30
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macuser:
lduncan: Parallel imported. Hmm, would be a NZ first, if there weren't already several hundred iPhones in NZ ;-)

So mate are you associated with http://www.iphoneunleashed.co.nz ? Will you be offering iPhones unlocked using the iPhoneSimFree method?
I would rather that unlock method as it seems less messy, and will probably be cheaper.


I think he is using TurboSim. There are no software unlock solutions available to public.

There will be on Tuesday ;-)

macuser
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  #85865 8-Sep-2007 17:32
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lduncan: Yes. I'm the Director.

I have an open iPhone with scope and protocol analyser ready to reverse the iphonesimfree unlock (much like a lot of other engineers around the world I suspect). It should be relatively trivial to reverse, as the way into the baseband is just a serial port.

That's why iphonesimfree are releasing it the way they are. They want to maximise their profit, they know the method should be reversed within a matter of hours of it being publicly released, hence the 500 license minimum, and their reseller approach.

Layton

Haha good luck, When ever I can muster up the money, Ill get one :-P



lduncan
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  #85866 8-Sep-2007 17:33
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macuser:
STI:
macuser:
lduncan: Parallel imported. Hmm, would be a NZ first, if there weren't already several hundred iPhones in NZ ;-)

So mate are you associated with http://www.iphoneunleashed.co.nz ? Will you be offering iPhones unlocked using the iPhoneSimFree method?
I would rather that unlock method as it seems less messy, and will probably be cheaper.


I think he is using TurboSim. There are no software unlock solutions available to public.

There will be on Tuesday ;-)

Tuesday last week, or this week ;-)

lduncan
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  #85869 8-Sep-2007 17:39
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I wonder who just acquired ipsf

http://www.techomical.com/my_weblog/2007/09/ihone-software-.html

macuser
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  #85871 8-Sep-2007 17:48
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Haha Probably T-Mobile :-P

lduncan
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  #85872 8-Sep-2007 17:50
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at&t ?

 
 
 

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macuser
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  #85874 8-Sep-2007 17:52
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if It was AT&T would they not just stop it now...? 

lduncan
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  #85876 8-Sep-2007 17:59
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I guess everyone will have to wait until Monday to find out. But AT&T would have to sort of cash to pay ipsf more than what they could ever make from selling this software.

This software unlock has played out like a bit of a soap opera so far, nothing would surprise me now.

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  #85877 8-Sep-2007 18:02
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lduncan:

Tuesday last week, or this week ;-)


You mean the 48-72 hour notice on their FAQ? That is been there for more than a week.






macuser
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  #85879 8-Sep-2007 18:11
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lduncan:

Tuesday last week, or this week ;-)


You mean the 48-72 hour notice on the FAQ? That is been there for more than a week.

No I mean they will start allowing unlocks on Monday US time.  

http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/07/iphonesimfree-shows-us-demo-of-iphone-unlock-app-backend-now/





lduncan
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  #85880 8-Sep-2007 18:14
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just taking the piss. They've revised their release date more times than microsoft did with vista ;-)

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  #85883 8-Sep-2007 18:23
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If they are checking the customer's IMEI it's only a matter of time before someone reverse engineer that.






lduncan
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  #85885 8-Sep-2007 18:37
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I'd bet it's even easier than fooling their backend servers. I don't see anyway they can protect their software from being reversed in a couple of hours. Ultimately they are talking to the baseband over a unsecured internal serial port. From the video released today, they are clearly patching the firmware, not generating valid NCK codes to unlock the "standard" way.

Tap the internal serial traces on the PCB with a scope/protocol analyser, and you've got a transcript of every character sent to the baseband over its serial port. Maybe a little disassembly to see what it's actually doing for interest purposes, then package it into an arm-macho binary, and you've got a free software unlock.

I'd say the only reason they are gathering IMEIs is to administer and control their licensing.

macuser
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  #86235 11-Sep-2007 10:03
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And it begins :-) 
http://www.iphonesimfree.com/cgi-bin/iphonesimfree/engine.pl?page=home

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