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#174912 10-Jun-2015 15:24
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Having a quick look at the various Apple Music web pages, it appears that there are some subtle differences to the initial offerings for different countries. 

in NZ, it appears we do not get a version where we can have free access to "Apple Radio Stations", apart from Apple 1 or whatever it's called.

In the US and AUS they DO offer free access to the radio stations as well as Apple 1.

Why would this be, do you think?

Also - what are your general feelings on the idea of Apple getting into streaming music? Is this the new revolution in streaming services? Will they do for streaming what they did for digital downloads? 

Thoughts? 

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  #1322251 10-Jun-2015 15:34
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Apple Music Radio is the new iTunes radio so that follows the same as current situation.



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  #1322313 10-Jun-2015 16:49
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But what i don't understand is that we haven't had a paid subscription version of Apple Radio in NZ anyway, so why exclude us from a fee versino of it at launch when other countries will have it...even though we'll get paid access to it? Surely you'd want to offer a similar service around the world? 






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  #1322317 10-Jun-2015 16:53
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I guess it is to do with the existing free access to iTunes radio in AU and USA. Must have been too hard to extend that across all other countries with the new Apple Radio.

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  #1322555 11-Jun-2015 07:05
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Because nobody has invented a single, global, communications system, that makes sending a music stream next door no different to sending it across the world, obviously. Can you imagine how difficult a task that will be?

One day, there will be one. I imagine it will be like a big network ... no - a network of networks. Some sort of ... internetwork. All the machines across the world speaking in common internetwork protocols. 

I'm sure as soon as that comes along those courageous people who spend their careers helping to spread joy and happiness by negotiating the byzantine paths of regional distribution contracts (so that we don't have to) will be enraptured to finally be able to say, "At last! Now we can work out a single agreement to distribute our joy and happiness everywhere to all peoples, without regard for such petty vulgarities as 'borders' or 'having to move physical bits of paper and plastic around'!" 

And on that day, we will at last begin to truly break down the barriers that separate man from his fellow man.








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  #1322764 11-Jun-2015 12:30
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SaltyNZ: Because nobody has invented a single, global, communications system, that makes sending a music stream next door no different to sending it across the world, obviously. Can you imagine how difficult a task that will be?

One day, there will be one. I imagine it will be like a big network ... no - a network of networks. Some sort of ... internetwork. All the machines across the world speaking in common internetwork protocols. 





Isn't that the INTERNET? 






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  #1322768 11-Jun-2015 12:39
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Or perhaps the real reason is that they really just don't want to give away music for free. The fact that they already do in AU and the US (itunes radio with ads) makes it a bit of a let down if they take it away. 



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  #1322773 11-Jun-2015 12:47
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myopinion: Or perhaps the real reason is that they really just don't want to give away music for free. The fact that they already do in AU and the US (itunes radio with ads) makes it a bit of a let down if they take it away. 

I think this is probably the real reason...




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  #1322774 11-Jun-2015 12:47
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Handsomedan:
SaltyNZ: Because nobody has invented a single, global, communications system, that makes sending a music stream next door no different to sending it across the world, obviously. Can you imagine how difficult a task that will be?

One day, there will be one. I imagine it will be like a big network ... no - a network of networks. Some sort of ... internetwork. All the machines across the world speaking in common internetwork protocols. 





Isn't that the INTERNET? 




You mean it already exists?

Well, in that case I suppose it must be just an army of middle men who specialise in adding no value whatsoever and want to make damn sure the world doesn't move on past the now-irrelevant rules that make them their money.




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  #1326222 17-Jun-2015 04:41
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I'm running iOS 8.4 beta, and the Apple Music promotion screen is now showing in the Music app, although you can't yet sign up.
NZ pricing is $12.99 for individuals, $18.99 for the family plan. This uses family sharing and lets up to six people access the service.
As widely publicized, there'll be a three-month trial at launch.




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  #1326245 17-Jun-2015 08:28
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Not showing in iOS 9 yet

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  #1326255 17-Jun-2015 08:45
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It apparently curates music for the user, is that offered anywhere else? I'm not into streaming music, I carry my own, nor do I want radio station, but the curation part is interesting.

So, If I like Def Leppard, will I be bombarded by heavy metal bands, which I don't like?  Interesting though.

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  #1327623 19-Jun-2015 08:47
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And now the "Radio" tab has appeared in the iOS 8.4 Music app.
Plenty of stations to choose from but none of them work at this point.




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  #1332162 26-Jun-2015 15:09
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So, will this be available in NZ on 30/6/2015? The US site states this date, the NZ site just says "coming soon".




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  #1332164 26-Jun-2015 15:13
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Read this: https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2015/06/08Introducing-Apple-Music-All-The-Ways-You-Love-Music-All-in-One-Place-.html

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t doesn't specifically say which 100 countries but it does say worldwide debut on the 30th of June. If that is correct then NZ will be one of the first countries in the world to get it (depending on how they define the 30th of June...US time or world time?)

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myopinion: Read this: https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2015/06/08Introducing-Apple-Music-All-The-Ways-You-Love-Music-All-in-One-Place-.html

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t doesn't specifically say which 100 countries but it does say worldwide debut on the 30th of June. If that is correct then NZ will be one of the first countries in the world to get it (depending on how they define the 30th of June...US time or world time?)


"Apple Music will be available starting on June 30 in over 100 countries"

Having the word "starting" in there can give it more than one meaning. I read that as 100 countries will get it (eventually), with the first country/countries getting it June 30. I don't think it translates to "Apple music will be available on June 30 in 100 countries"".




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