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Topic # 24168 16-Jul-2008 20:59
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I've got so many iPhone questions that I thought I should put them all into a single thread rather than clutter up the forum.

1st question (feel free to post your own questions):

Can I get something for the iPhone that will ANSWER my calls after a preset delay (kicking in before Vodafone Voicemail), and then record a message onto the iPhone itself so that I don't have to dial 707 and pay to retrieve messages?

Also it would hopefully let me pick up my calls if (as often happens) I JUST miss the call and it goes to voicemail (very annoying!!)

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  Reply # 148656 16-Jul-2008 21:27
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Not aware of any apps that do what you want yet (or if it's possible with the SDK?) but you can at least get voicemail turned off with Vodafone. Just call them up and ask.

Obviously, not an option if you really do need messages, and there is no app to take over the function, but personally I've lived happily without it for some time now.



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  Reply # 148658 16-Jul-2008 21:29
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wanion: Not aware of any apps that do what you want yet (or if it's possible with the SDK?) but you can at least get voicemail turned off with Vodafone. Just call them up and ask.

Obviously, not an option if you really do need messages, and there is no app to take over the function, but personally I've lived happily without it for some time now.

It's a pain that you can't extend the ridiculous 20 seconds (approx) before it goes to voicemail.

This can be changed on contract but NOT on prepaid :/

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 148659 16-Jul-2008 21:32
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ahmad:
wanion: Not aware of any apps that do what you want yet (or if it's possible with the SDK?) but you can at least get voicemail turned off with Vodafone. Just call them up and ask.

Obviously, not an option if you really do need messages, and there is no app to take over the function, but personally I've lived happily without it for some time now.

It's a pain that you can't extend the ridiculous 20 seconds (approx) before it goes to voicemail.

This can be changed on contract but NOT on prepaid :/


I dont think these are the features that a handset can tinker with. Its all set with the operator. So, probably you should discuss with Vodafone or whichever provider it is.




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  Reply # 148662 16-Jul-2008 21:36
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chakkaradeep:
ahmad:
wanion: Not aware of any apps that do what you want yet (or if it's possible with the SDK?) but you can at least get voicemail turned off with Vodafone. Just call them up and ask.

Obviously, not an option if you really do need messages, and there is no app to take over the function, but personally I've lived happily without it for some time now.

It's a pain that you can't extend the ridiculous 20 seconds (approx) before it goes to voicemail.

This can be changed on contract but NOT on prepaid :/


I dont think these are the features that a handset can tinker with. Its all set with the operator. So, probably you should discuss with Vodafone or whichever provider it is.
I'm very sure that I saw a cellphone once that had this feature.

Basically the call is answered by the phone, and then the phone records the message to itself.

Has nothing to do with the operator.

But then again if you can afford an iPhone you should be able to afford 20c to check your voicemail I guess Laughing

More important for me would be the ability to answer the call "late" - after the phone has picked it up but before the caller has hung up.

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  Reply # 148663 16-Jul-2008 21:38
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ahmad:But then again if you can afford an iPhone you should be able to afford 20c to check your voicemail I guess Laughing


I usually dont keep my voicemailbox active and disable it Tongue out




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  Reply # 148667 16-Jul-2008 21:57
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I've just been browsing the SDK reference and I can't find anything that indicates there's any sort of API allowing access to the phone function (e.g. to answer a call) or the access audio stream of a call (to play a voicemail message or record the response).

I may be completely wrong, but it looks unlikely it'd currently be possible to make an app to handle on-phone voicemail, at least without a jailbroken iPhone and custom app using private APIs which the SDK agreement forbids. I'd be happy to be corrected.

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  Reply # 148710 17-Jul-2008 01:34
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chakkaradeep: 
I dont think these are the features that a handset can tinker with. Its all set with the operator. So, probably you should discuss with Vodafone or whichever provider it is.

from another thread

cranz: For On Account customers you can change the ring before voicemail with a GSM code:

**61*+6421700100**[NN]# then press call/send

[NN] is he value of time to ring, from 5 seconds to 30seconds (in 5 sec blocks)

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  Reply # 148711 17-Jul-2008 01:37
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Other details on the above setting in iPhone
http://iphoneguru.org/change-the-amount-of-rings-before-visual-voicemail-answers/

Also to get status just key in *#61# and press call




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  Reply # 148890 17-Jul-2008 15:55
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I am going to be getting a 1st gen iphone that is already "Ziphoned" to someone's SIM. They have advised that if they use another SIM in it, that it doesn't work.

ie. I have to re-jailbreak it with my SIM for it to work for me.

Does that sound correct? I was under the impression that jailbreaking would allow "any" SIM to work, even if swapped.

If I do have to re-jailbreak it, do I HAVE to use Ziphone to do this?

Is Ziphone the software of choice for a user like me? (you can tell from my questions that I'm not that clued up on this, but I'm asking a lot also because I like to be careful).

Any further advice very much appreciated!! Laughing


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  Reply # 148911 17-Jul-2008 16:29
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I am going to be getting a 1st gen iphone that is already "Ziphoned" to someone's SIM. They have advised that if they use another SIM in it, that it doesn't work.

ie. I have to re-jailbreak it with my SIM for it to work for me.

Does that sound correct? I was under the impression that jailbreaking would allow "any" SIM to work, even if swapped.

If I do have to re-jailbreak it, do I HAVE to use Ziphone to do this?

Is Ziphone the software of choice for a user like me? (you can tell from my questions that I'm not that clued up on this, but I'm asking a lot also because I like to be careful).

Any further advice very much appreciated!! Laughing


You shouldn't need to re-unlock to use your sim card, however if you do a restore then yes you will need to.

I suggest using Pwnage Tool to create a custom firmware.
When you use this tool it will set up everything you need to jailbreak and unlock, PLUS it will create a custom firmware for you. Keep this firmware somewhere and then anytime you need to do a restore use that file instead of downloading it from Apple. When you restore your phone will be unlocked, jailbroken and have installer on there. 

Now this is for iPhones on 1.1.4 Firmware, they are working on a 2.0 compatible version, which will hopefully be released soon.



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  Reply # 148920 17-Jul-2008 17:19
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Thanks NZbullet.

So you think Pwnage might be the best for a beginner geek like me? 2.0 isn't highly important to me.

Do I install Pwnage and run it straight away or do I have to first install Ziphone and do something with that first (given that it is currently "Ziphoned")?

Thanks.

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  Reply # 148936 17-Jul-2008 18:17
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Are you a MAc or PC user?



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  Reply # 148938 17-Jul-2008 18:27
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Oops sorry.

Windows XP as primary desktop (older config).

Windows Vista as laptop (newer but I tend not to install apps to this machine to keep it "lean").

iTunes installed to XP desktop only.

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  Reply # 148942 17-Jul-2008 18:36
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ahmad: Oops sorry.

Windows XP as primary desktop (older config).

Windows Vista as laptop (newer but I tend not to install apps to this machine to keep it "lean").

iTunes installed to XP desktop only.


No problem, it makes a difference though. You don't have to have anything to do with ZiPhone. You need to use WinPwn (Windows Version of Pwnage Tool). You can find all the details and how to's here at iClarified.com

The maker of WinPwn is currently working on the 2.0 version, you can follow the progress at his site: www.winpwn.com



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  Reply # 148956 17-Jul-2008 19:12
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Just to clarify, what will Winpwn offer me over Ziphone?

I don't even know what having a custom firmware means for me, practically speaking.

Thanks.

Edit: I just did a little google suggesting I should avoid Ziphone at all costs. What about iLiberty+ then?

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