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# 251536 29-Jun-2019 22:32
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Hey all,

 

I am looking at ditching Vodafone TV in favour of Apple TV but need some help before I make the jump.

 

We will be using the Apple TV on a TV which is not a smart TV and will not have anything like Freeview or Sky, Apple TV will be our player for everything.

 

From what I understand Apple TV is basically makes your TV an iPhone (without the touch screen (for now)). Basically you download apps on to the box and this is responsible for playing your content. Is this right?

 

Our plan would be to use it to watch Netflix, Tv 2 (some TV shows/movies), TV 3 (some news and tv shows/movies) and sports.

 

Does this plan sound like it would work? I know I would have to subscribe to Netflix etc independently.

 

If this works what apps do people use to watch movies and sports (football, league, rugby and cricket) on?

 

Can you record on Apple TV like you can with 'My Sky'? or is it dependant on the app you are using?

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

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  # 2267038 29-Jun-2019 22:41
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The Apple TV just connects to any TV with an HDMI input.  Yes it's (sort of) like a phone that you download apps to, although in NZ its a limited library.  You can get all the TV apps, Netflix, etc, and can rent movies. 

 

Love our Apple TV for watching streaming content, only wish I had got one sooner.     

 

Sorry don't do sport, no idea whats on offer other than what might be on the usual TV apps.  





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  # 2267083 30-Jun-2019 06:31
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Spark sport is supposed to be getting an Apple TV app in June. Not out yet, fanpass is also available.

No you can’t record on Apple TV, but by using on demand there is generally no need.




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  # 2267093 30-Jun-2019 07:44
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but we are looking at getting an Apple TV for our older living room tv that is no longer smart as the apps are out of date.
Does the nz Apple TV have plex, Netflix, Lightbox and sky go apps? As these are the apps we use the most.
Thnaks

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  # 2267098 30-Jun-2019 08:10
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BM0617:

Hey all,


I am looking at ditching Vodafone TV in favour of Apple TV but need some help before I make the jump.


We will be using the Apple TV on a TV which is not a smart TV and will not have anything like Freeview or Sky, Apple TV will be our player for everything.


From what I understand Apple TV is basically makes your TV an iPhone (without the touch screen (for now)). Basically you download apps on to the box and this is responsible for playing your content. Is this right?


Our plan would be to use it to watch Netflix, Tv 2 (some TV shows/movies), TV 3 (some news and tv shows/movies) and sports.


Does this plan sound like it would work? I know I would have to subscribe to Netflix etc independently.


If this works what apps do people use to watch movies and sports (football, league, rugby and cricket) on?


Can you record on Apple TV like you can with 'My Sky'? or is it dependant on the app you are using?


Thanks in advance for your help!


Brad



I don’t have an ATV but my understanding is that you can’t watch FTA TV on it - unless you’re referring to On Demand for watching TV2 and Three - there may be apps for those.




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  # 2267133 30-Jun-2019 09:14
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We use Apple TV exclusively - have three on the go in our household. Removed the need to have (so-called) 'smart' TV's as any simple panel does the job. The Apple TV and the apps receive regular updates and new apps are added all the time.

 

Has great features too - for example if we start watching a series on one device and move to another room, we can pick up where we left off. iTunes movie rentals are another feature. Nice simple remote and the interface is attractive and easy to follow.

 

TVNZ and Three apps allow you to watch content on demand but also stream live too. We have Lightbox, Plex, Netflix, Amazon TV. Heaps of other apps available and games for the kids, plenty free and some chargeable.

 

With a very small monthly fee (for a third party service) and a simple tweak to settings you can also access apps from overseas. BBC player, Channel 4 and ITV from the UK which are 'free to air' and US channels such as Hulu, Showtime & HBO if you are happy to subscribe. PM me if you want to know more about this.

 

We hung onto Sky for a while for sport but are able to get all we need using the work around above and watching them on overseas channels.

 

 

 

 


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  # 2267136 30-Jun-2019 09:27
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There is no sky go on apple tv.  They have fan pass (sky sport 1 - 4 only).  There is also Neon I believe, (I've just looked and neon says it offers an iPad app, but does not mention apple tv, for if they bock airplay from it)

 

There is also:

 

  • lightbox
  • netflix
  • tvnz ondemand (with live)
  • tv3 ondemand (with live)
  • youtube
  • amazon video
  • red bull tv
  • plex

 

 

 





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  # 2267137 30-Jun-2019 09:28
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One box to rule them all, we use ATV exclusively. As someone else mentioned, you can't record live TV but with on demand apps there isn't really any need to anymore. I watch One News most nights and can start it anytime after its begun broadcasting and just rewind to the start. 

 

My main apps are:

 

TVNZ Ondemand

 

3Now

 

Netflix

 

Amazon (US with Showtime and HBO added)

 

BBC iPlayer

 

Hulu

 

SBS Australia

 

With these and iTunes movies there isn't much that I can't watch. I'm not into sport so can't comment on that area.





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  # 2267192 30-Jun-2019 10:27
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Only downside is no Neon only reason I still use the Chromecast, Soo simple for the wife and young kids to use. We don't watch anything else these days often watch news via live stream on TVNZ app

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  # 2267222 30-Jun-2019 11:43
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Curiositystream is good too if you like docos.A myriad if stuff on there.

 

Sky is looking to introduce a full app, as an alternative to satellite. If that happens you can probably watch Sky on an ATV in due course 


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  # 2267306 30-Jun-2019 13:39
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Here is an interesting little article from Stuff.com Apple’s TV+ app may leave New Zealand customers wanting. Lee Suckling10:00, Mar 27 2019

 

Our global location and Sky's studio agreements makes for interesting times.

 

Apples own PR - Apple TV app is the ultimate way to watch TV

 

What I am hoping is that Apple updates their ATV with a larger - 1Tb drive and/or the capability to plug in an ext drive. It's all well good to rent stuff but I like to own a lot of the content. I have a 487 DVD collection which is small compared to some collections and 100 downloaded content, mostly gay themed, which has a very small market here in NZ. US & Europe have the best gay themed content of high quality which we just do not get here due to market size. (think Broke Back Mountain or Beautiful Thing or Angels in America) So a larger ATV storage or ext storage capability, not iCloud, would be huge to a lot of people worldwide.

 

Panasonic has the better Freeview recorders but again if ATV introduced a full on twin recorder into the mix, combine it with their App store and their up and coming Apple TV app, they would be a huge player in any market.

 

And while we are at it; where is ATV siri for New Zealand ❗️❓





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  # 2267321 30-Jun-2019 14:37
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I have two big issues with the Apple TV.  

 

1. 4K content in YouTube is not available because Apple doesn't support the codec Google uses.

 

2. The remote control is abysmal.  The touchscreen surface is terrible and navigation is a royal pain in the butt.  

 

Aside from that, for the small number of apps I use, it's fine.  I'm in Plex most of the time.  AirPlay a bit.  Apple Music a lot.  But for Netflix and YouTube I use the native LG WebOS apps.  


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  # 2267328 30-Jun-2019 15:03
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gehenna:1. 4K content in YouTube is not available because Apple doesn't support the codec Google uses.

 

Yes I have read a lot of gripes about this and YouTubes own site says: YouTube relies on VP9, the industry leading open-source codec, for distribution and playback of 4K videos. Using VP9 results in less buffering, faster startup, and higher video quality. The Apple TV 4K model (5th generation) does not support VP9, and therefore we can’t deliver 4K resolution on this device.

 

industry leading open-source codec That's a bit rich as considering they own some of the patents. It was originally designed for googles Android against anything that Microsoft and Apple had to offer. Again we see the behemoths battling it out with licencing and money making - VP9 vs HEVC.

 

gehenna:2. The remote control is abysmal.  The touchscreen surface is terrible and navigation is a royal pain in the butt.

 

If you have an iPhone or iPad have you tried their Apple Remote App ? and if you are Android based I believe their are App's available though not of course an offical Apple app. I have heard that the AnyMote app is good.





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  # 2267340 30-Jun-2019 15:36
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The app is just as bad given it's touch gesture based in some screens, button based in others.  They haven't used a consistent HCI language across tvOS unfortunately. The only useful thing I do with the app is typing. 


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  # 2267341 30-Jun-2019 15:39
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It won't be as good for the Sky stuff as what Vodafone TV is at the moment, though depending on what new applics Sky has planned for future that could change.

 

No recording of freeview, can watch live through - for non live stuff it is the TV stations on demand catalog only.

 

Sport - Fan Pass which is Sky Sports 1-4, expected to improve though, Spark Sports from memory is coming out with applic July.

 

Neon, no Apple TV applic (that may change in future) so need an Apple phone or pad to airplay or if have an android phone a chromecast.

 

I'm  assuming your TV supports HDMI as that is the only connector on Apple TV.

 

As a warning the RWC will not be available on the live stream of TVNZ on Demand so will not be able to watch the free games with Apple TV.

 

"For viewers used to live streaming TVNZ 1 via TVNZ OnDemand or our TVNZ app, we’re really sorry but the matches won’t be available for viewing in that way. 

 

TVNZ 1’s live stream will be turned off when we screen any matches – so if you watch TVNZ 1 online through TVNZ OnDemand or via the TVNZ app, you’ll need to head over to Spark Sport to stream these games or switch to free-to-air broadcast TV."

 

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/rugby-world-cup-2019

 

 

 

Edit: You also lose Prime on Apple TV only as well, I feel that going to an Apple TV from the Vodafone one would be a downgrade.

 

I haven't seen a Vodafone TV going, just it abilities on paper, if Netflix or other items don't work to good on it, Apple TV is a one off cost so they may be able to compliment each other.

 

 




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  # 2267447 30-Jun-2019 19:30
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Loismustdye: Sorry to hijack the thread, but we are looking at getting an Apple TV for our older living room tv that is no longer smart as the apps are out of date.
Does the nz Apple TV have plex, Netflix, Lightbox and sky go apps? As these are the apps we use the most.
Thnaks

 

What is Plex? Is it any good?


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