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# 37804 18-Jul-2009 16:45
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Just a warning for people sending an SMS message to multiple people on iPhone.

When you send a SMS message to more than one person the message sends as an MMS.

I have tested this on both my iPhone and a friends (both iPhone 3G). I'm not sure if this is the same for iPhone 3GS.

Basically this means that when you send a bulk text like the 37 person one I sent when I moved it doesn't fall under your text plan, so this cost me $7.40

Anyone else noticed this?

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  # 236696 18-Jul-2009 16:49
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What the duck??? Stink

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  # 236698 18-Jul-2009 16:50
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Weird. Is this on VF or XT?




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# 236699 18-Jul-2009 16:55
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billgates: Weird. Is this on VF or XT?




Well it will be on both as the handset is doing it

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  # 236701 18-Jul-2009 17:04

I'll know in a few days if this is true.

It's hard to tell from my balance with the data usage.

/me swears under his breath

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  # 236741 18-Jul-2009 19:51
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Oh ouch.. stuff that!





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  # 236745 18-Jul-2009 19:58
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there are advantages of this . I don't know if vodafone does this but MMS's on other carriers I've checked are charged per MMS but SMS are charged per recepicant. So you can send it to 10 people and it will charge you 1 MMS instead of 10. With vodafone there is no "bundled" MMS messages as far as I know so its a disadvantage ...

Saying that.. this feature can be turned on/off on V3.1 of the iPhone software as far as I know. which should be out sometime soon.

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  # 236747 18-Jul-2009 20:13
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Umm.. the official vodafone NZ IPCC has GroupModeEnabled false so if I guess right it shouldn't do this unless this option means something else. There was a Time which the unofficial Telecom File done via nzbullet (and mine which is a little changed) had this option set to true.

Or I am completely wrong in what the GroupModeEnabled setting does in the MMS IPCC setting.


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  # 236768 18-Jul-2009 21:53

This is not the case for XT prepaid users using nzbullet's ipcc file.



I have sent two multi-recipient "texts" since I got my iPhone on the July 11th.



I have used $7.70 on data (under the 120mb addon), $12 on txting (txt600 addon). This leaves $5.32 left in my balance which is exactly what I do have left from my $20 topup (+$5 bonus). The 2c difference will be from Telecom's data accuracy with *333 only giving to 1dp.

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  # 236773 18-Jul-2009 22:24
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I can confirm NO mobile network would change a SMS into a PXT message Telecom XT or Vodafone

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  # 236786 18-Jul-2009 23:34
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Yeah I've had this problem on both XT and VF and it just seems to be a dumb iPhone thing. I don't know what the behavour was pre v3.0 as PXT was not in the v2.x OS.

I also have vague memories of having this issue with a old Nokia but I could be wrong.

At least on the Vodafone iPhone plans you get 1000 PXT for 3 months, on Telecom its 20c to Telecom mobiles, 50c to any other NZ network which ironically isn't OneRate :)




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  # 236840 19-Jul-2009 11:07
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I could send these fine before 3.0 and I also have nzbullets ipcc file (maybe and older version I should update)

nzbullet can you confirm GroupModeEnabled on your ipcc and its function?

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  # 236843 19-Jul-2009 11:24

I experienced this issue while testing the 3.0 beta's (using custom hacked ipcc), but not since 3.0 was released. I beleive LennonNZ is correct and its handled by the GroupModeEnabled setting in the carrier bundle so VodaNZ 4.1 users should be ok,

VodaNZ 4.1 carrier bundle, iPhone 3G, iPhone plan:

18 July 2009 17:56:35 0064211xxxxx TXT 0:00 $0.00
18 July 2009 17:56:31 0064216xxxxx TXT 0:00 $0.00

edit: I just checked nzbullets ipcc and it has GroupModeEnabled also set to false

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  # 236844 19-Jul-2009 11:27

So I should have been charged for MMS' but I haven't? O_o...

I have a 3GS. Maybe it's fixed/doesn't apply to us?

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  # 236861 19-Jul-2009 13:01
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So it GroupModeEnabled meant to be on or off to not be charged? and on what network?




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  # 236880 19-Jul-2009 14:25
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It should be set to "false" on both networks (vodafone and the latest unofficial tTelecom have it set to false). _IF_ vodafone/Telecom Bundled MMS and SMS together then it would be better to set to true.

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